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HA DIO Vs Yukari(tohuo)
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Being able to perform actions while time technically doesnt exist is infinite speed, same with moving in stopped time as the characters is moving in what is essentially an infintasmal small amount of time. Same goes for moving in voids where time doesnt exist (but that one is iffy because of how most media treats that).
Unless we have reasons to believe that it's resisting (such as Jotaro moving in stopped time, that's due to resistance), it's infinite speed.
GER moved not only while time was straight up erased but he moved and acted within one moment of that erased time, not to mention his speed allegedly cant be gauged by Stand stats, of which Infinite speed is a stat shared by at least two stands, one of which is in the part GER debuts in, we dont use stand stats (although tbh stand stats are ok sometimes if we know what the stats actually mean, they can be vague as **** sometimes which is what the main issue is, like Whitesnake having a D in speed because it's acid is slow but it's actual speed is A but the stats only mention the D) but support is always nice.
Unless we have reasons to believe that it's resisting (such as Jotaro moving in stopped time, that's due to resistance), it's infinite speed.
GER moved not only while time was straight up erased but he moved and acted within one moment of that erased time, not to mention his speed allegedly cant be gauged by Stand stats, of which Infinite speed is a stat shared by at least two stands, one of which is in the part GER debuts in, we dont use stand stats (although tbh stand stats are ok sometimes if we know what the stats actually mean, they can be vague as **** sometimes which is what the main issue is, like Whitesnake having a D in speed because it's acid is slow but it's actual speed is A but the stats only mention the D) but support is always nice.
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>voting.
tbh I think it's a mismatch, Yuk ap stomps and maybe even hax stomps but speed unequal it's a speedblitz and hax stomp.
Although idk strongest DIO incarnation has the full corpse bar one piece (I think? He may of actually got the full thing at the end) and enough stored soul power to overwrite the universe casually.
But even then, it's either a speed blitz or a who shoots first, kinda a mismatch.
Edit: Should mention only TWOH scales to GER, HA DIO didnt react, TWOH was already summoned.
tbh I think it's a mismatch, Yuk ap stomps and maybe even hax stomps but speed unequal it's a speedblitz and hax stomp.
Although idk strongest DIO incarnation has the full corpse bar one piece (I think? He may of actually got the full thing at the end) and enough stored soul power to overwrite the universe casually.
But even then, it's either a speed blitz or a who shoots first, kinda a mismatch.
Edit: Should mention only TWOH scales to GER, HA DIO didnt react, TWOH was already summoned.
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>The world over heaven being unaffected by GER and tusk and getting a punch from star platinum seems like plot induced stupidity
>If his arms are broken he cant do anything
Uh so? Both of those are unrelated points. DIO's arms were fine when he countered GER, overwrote Act 4 and overwrote SP smashing his head in. And it isnt PIS, it's established and heavily enforced that TWOH is ******* op as shit, with Funny searching worlds for a counter to it and GER and Act 4 being the only Stands that can come close, not even Love Train can defeat DIO, all are indeed strong but are weaker none the less. TWOH is simply the strongest Stand.
Yes he cant overwrite if his arms are heavily damaged, but that's a bit of a moot point, given in this match, if his arms are broken, so is the rest of him given the ap difference.
>If his arms are broken he cant do anything
Uh so? Both of those are unrelated points. DIO's arms were fine when he countered GER, overwrote Act 4 and overwrote SP smashing his head in. And it isnt PIS, it's established and heavily enforced that TWOH is ******* op as shit, with Funny searching worlds for a counter to it and GER and Act 4 being the only Stands that can come close, not even Love Train can defeat DIO, all are indeed strong but are weaker none the less. TWOH is simply the strongest Stand.
Yes he cant overwrite if his arms are heavily damaged, but that's a bit of a moot point, given in this match, if his arms are broken, so is the rest of him given the ap difference.
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There's speculation that Yukari may be immune to time stop, since it could be speculated that stopping time is manipulating with the border of time. However, we've never seen Yukari fight Sakuya in canon so it's impossible to say. I vote mismatch.
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HA Dio's time stop can stop those that resist it anyway.Thestrikingzebra said:
>so how about junko vs HA or GER
Literally the same issue as the current match, it's a mismatch no matter how you do it. You're gonna have to try a speed equal match with some other JoJo characters given GER is the stomp or be stomp character. Could always try and do fodder vs weather maybe? That seems interesting.
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HA Dio's time stop can stop those that resist it anyway.
>so how about junko vs HA or GER
Literally the same issue as the current match, it's a mismatch no matter how you do it. You're gonna have to try a speed equal match with some other JoJo characters given GER is the stomp or be stomp character. Could always try and do fodder vs weather maybe? That seems interesting.
But the profile states she is omnipresent also didnt sakuya fight reimu in the infernal realm were time dosent exist?
>so how about junko vs HA or GER
Literally the same issue as the current match, it's a mismatch no matter how you do it. You're gonna have to try a speed equal match with some other JoJo characters given GER is the stomp or be stomp character. Could always try and do fodder vs weather maybe? That seems interesting.
But the profile states she is omnipresent also didnt sakuya fight reimu in the infernal realm were time dosent exist?
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HA Dio's time stop can stop those that resist it anyway.
>so how about junko vs HA or GER
Literally the same issue as the current match, it's a mismatch no matter how you do it. You're gonna have to try a speed equal match with some other JoJo characters given GER is the stomp or be stomp character. Could always try and do fodder vs weather maybe? That seems interesting.
Also isnt she above reality? So wouldnt HA powers not work
>so how about junko vs HA or GER
Literally the same issue as the current match, it's a mismatch no matter how you do it. You're gonna have to try a speed equal match with some other JoJo characters given GER is the stomp or be stomp character. Could always try and do fodder vs weather maybe? That seems interesting.
Also isnt she above reality? So wouldnt HA powers not work
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>But the profile states she is omnipresent also didnt sakuya fight reimu in the infernal realm were time dosent exist?
Omnipresent isnt a speed, it's a state of being, you could be omnipresent and have the reactions of a toddler. Dont know? Does the profile say infinite speed? If not then it likely didnt qualify for the void standards, much like the void in dbz.
>Also isnt she above reality? So wouldnt HA powers not work
That's a blatant no, on top of NLF, especially given HA Dio's whole schtick. I'm certain she isnt 4D, and even if she was HA Dio's powers can effect things on a 4D scale so that isnt a free pass.
Omnipresent isnt a speed, it's a state of being, you could be omnipresent and have the reactions of a toddler. Dont know? Does the profile say infinite speed? If not then it likely didnt qualify for the void standards, much like the void in dbz.
>Also isnt she above reality? So wouldnt HA powers not work
That's a blatant no, on top of NLF, especially given HA Dio's whole schtick. I'm certain she isnt 4D, and even if she was HA Dio's powers can effect things on a 4D scale so that isnt a free pass.
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wasnt it confirmed that the existence of countless brane worlds (timelines) and dimensions in multiple occasions during the series and characters like hermits can creat there own infinite expanding brane worlds (as stated by miko)Chariot190 said:
appereantly the dream world in touhou trancends and controls realtiy so she should be 5D
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>wasnt it confirmed that the existence of countless brane worlds (timelines) and dimensions in multiple occasions during the series and characters like hermits can creat there own infinite expanding brane worlds (as stated by miko)
So? That'd only be low 2-C.
>appereantly the dream world in touhou trancends and controls realtiy so she should be 5D
You're extrapolating quite a bit there. The dream world isnt 5D, nor is controlling it, that's simply low 2-C. Controlling a space-time doesnt make you 5D. See Dialga.
So? That'd only be low 2-C.
>appereantly the dream world in touhou trancends and controls realtiy so she should be 5D
You're extrapolating quite a bit there. The dream world isnt 5D, nor is controlling it, that's simply low 2-C. Controlling a space-time doesnt make you 5D. See Dialga.
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I mean, you could always hit up someone listed on the supporters if you have any questions on specifics.
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>abstract type 1
Depends on what the thing in question is, HA Dio could possibly do it depending on what. GER though you right.
Depends on what the thing in question is, HA Dio could possibly do it depending on what. GER though you right.
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So if that dosent make a character 4d or 5d what does?Chariot190 said:
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I only got the tier system not dimensionsChariot190 said:
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