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H.A.D Vs Soul King
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DIO "removing him from reality" is essentially just his EE though right? In which case, SK probably survives it for the reasons I listed above, unless there's something I'm missing.
Regardless, as I said earlier, if DIO doesn't instantly timestop then he loses, SK just has more ways of winning and can counter basically everything other than probably the timestop, and I'm not sure how in character it is for him to instantly timestop anyway.
If what Rikimarox2 said above about this DIO being arrogant is true, then yeah, he loses more times than not.
Regardless, as I said earlier, if DIO doesn't instantly timestop then he loses, SK just has more ways of winning and can counter basically everything other than probably the timestop, and I'm not sure how in character it is for him to instantly timestop anyway.
If what Rikimarox2 said above about this DIO being arrogant is true, then yeah, he loses more times than not.
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He has nulled abstract stuff which you can't physically see.Unless Dio's powers are passive they'll get nulled.
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Can you prove DIO is going to consistently insta-time stop right as the battle begins please?
Even canon DIO doesn't fight like that and all he has is timestop, he abuses it sure, but he doesn't just instantly timestop and kill his opponent right as the battle begins
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This is the weirdest asspull I have seen in a long time.
He can’t see it happen even in the future so even with the limited use, he should still counter it. He will just see DIO use it and then get either nulled or overwritten.
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pretty sure HA Dio time stop range is Multiversal+
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Just gonna point something out
Since a base power was restricted this means this matchup can't be added correct?
Since a base power was restricted this means this matchup can't be added correct?
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not sure tho
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i mean, i just remember it was Multiversal+ like his other hax
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It can't be added because something is restricted and durability is equalized.
Anyway, I didn't say it before, but I vote for SK, while it's possible DIO can win if he uses timestop instantly, I don't think it's very likely for two reasons
Anyway, I didn't say it before, but I vote for SK, while it's possible DIO can win if he uses timestop instantly, I don't think it's very likely for two reasons
- It's not been proven to be in character for him, and given what I know of canon DIO + other comments in this thread, he's probably pretty arrogant and would underestimate SK.
- It's not been proven that DIO can actually kill SK due to being able to survive and continue regenerating after soul destruction as well as continuing to exist whilst the SK palace exists, which DIO has absolutely no knowledge of and it exists in an isolated realm protected by barriers.
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Actually in the game, it's one of his first moves
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I'm sure DIO has all the range to affect SK palace
Also Time Stop or Reality Overwrite is one of the first things he does as said above
I think DIO takes this
Also Time Stop or Reality Overwrite is one of the first things he does as said above
I think DIO takes this
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How does that work exactly? Does multiversal range mean you can affect dimensions you're not aware exist from completely different verses?
Prove it, I've asked this to be proven and nobody has done it yet. It would quite literally need to be an action he performs right as the battle begins since SK's insane precog means his first move is going to be something that kills DIO.
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A lot of people have this misconception, most Bleach characters don't have a physical body, they're literally just souls, Low-Godly to them is basically Mid-Godly in principal, this is why Aizen also only has Low-Godly even though he gets it from regenerating after he's completely destroyed.
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1- it should given nothing in Bleach is multiversal+ in size
2- ask some JoJo knowledgeable member
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read the profile? i guess
I mean, read the profile. also if this is post-absorption Dio then his reallity overwrite can be actived by tougth or something similiar
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Saying "read the profile" isn't a response, I've very clearly read the profile and nowhere does it say it's in character for DIO to instantly time stop.
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you asked for range not for a gameplay...
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This is what you told me to "read the profile" for, nowhere on DIO's profile does it say it's in character for him to time stop right as the battle begins.
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nope i told for the first message
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ah nvm
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Personally i'd say DIO likely timestops first thing against SK. From what I remember, the thing with him getting cocky is mostly when he's fighting the Joestars, and when he against others he doens't hesitate to timestop and **** them up.
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Going with DIO FRA
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Uhh he 100% gets nulled, he doesn’t need to understand what he is seeing as explained by Yhwach. He simply understands and it doesn’t work. I’m confused how this notion time stop counters passive power nullification, passive causality manipulation amongst other things.
Match starts > he sees countless futures instantly > understand everything within it> nulls whatever can harm him before it happens
Match starts > he sees countless futures instantly > understand everything within it> nulls whatever can harm him before it happens
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He can still see the future even if his future self dies, so if Dio can't perma stop time like there won't be any future at all forever, then the future will continue and Soul King will see it.
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Because theres a concept called NLF
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That’s not a NLF lol
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Saying he can understand and null something that he would not be able to see? Without any feats of doing such?
Thats....kinda NLF territory.
Thats....kinda NLF territory.
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That’s how the ability is described to work. Nor does he has to see something physical I literally remember you making a thread on this before.
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Feats >>> statements here. You know this as well as I do.
That was about invisible based powers. But admittedly, "invisible" was probably the wrong word used to describe my point before at that time. Whatever the case, seeing in the future only gets you so far as to what you can actually perceive and suggesting you could see something that has no form to it or similar, without actual feats of doing that, is an issue.
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Statements are also a form of feat. And there is 0 anti feat regarding the statements.
Not an issue at all. almighty is stated to be the greatest power in Bleach. Thus it scales above all the other abilities. And guess what exists? Time Stop. So it can be argued it can.
Still you made that thread and others disagreed with it.
Not an issue at all. almighty is stated to be the greatest power in Bleach. Thus it scales above all the other abilities. And guess what exists? Time Stop. So it can be argued it can.
Still you made that thread and others disagreed with it.
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