Guilty Gear: Wait... What?

[Keeweed]

So what should we scale the characters to then?

If you show evidence for any useful feats, I can as a few calc group members to help you out.

They should stay scaling to Japan vaporization feat we were already changing them to. Nothing changes from the original changes that are being made.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. That seems good then.

 

[Antvasima]

ok, so, burned out

Ramaining sheets are May, Venom, Robo-Ky, Jam, Bridget, Faust

also not 100% sure if how i handled A.B.A. is correct

Is somebody else willing to handle this please?

Also, there are minor corrections that need to be handled for the previous edits:

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Message_Wall:Overlord775?threadId=4400000000003274474

So, about this...

 

[Overlord775]

The reason I put them at 6-A is based off how we scale Soul Calibur. The mid tiers in that game backscale to the high tiers, and the low tiers backscale from the mid tiers. Same thing in Guilty Gear the mid tiers (Dizzy, Elphelt, and answer) backscale immensely from the high tiers. And everyone else backscales from them.

ok, but how do you separate the Low Tiers from the Mid Tiers ? like Answer has a single fight in the whole of GG, and it's against Baiken

then there's the fact a Berserk XX Dizz layed waste to Chipp and Venom, but is then stopped by Faust

 

[Overlord775]

@Antvasima

just needed a night of rest dw

 

[Keeweed]

ok, but how do you separate the Low Tiers from the Mid Tiers ? like Answer has a single fight in the whole of GG, and it's against Baiken

then there's the fact a Berserk XX Dizz layed waste to Chipp and Venom, but is then stopped by Faust

No answer also fought those gears that Baiken said were beyond her and overpowered May within the same scene. Answer also fought Baiken when actively didn’t want to fight at all while Baiken was pissed at him, yet he won. He’s very clearly superior and even if he wasn’t Dizzy and Elphelt are still massively above everyone but get trashed on by Sol.

The second point says way more about Faust then it does anyone else.

 

[Antvasima]

@Antvasima

just needed a night of rest dw

Okay. No problem.

 

[Overlord775]

@Keeweed

ok, so May and Jam left,

i have 0 idea who to even scale May from, like none at all, and her current scaling is bad

Jam is ... inconsistent, like she defeated Johnny and fought evenly with Jack-O, but has also lower showings

 

[Keeweed]

She's definitely 6-A at worst because Millia always views her as really strong throughout pretty much every game. She can't be a mid tier because she needed someone else to subdue a berserk xx Dizzy and is inferior to Answer. I could replay May's XX route to see who she fought and how serious they were.

I know when Jam fought a weakened Justice she wasn't really trying (if I remember the scene correctly) and Justice had to flee and she fought Faust. Considering she also fought Johnny and Jack-o I think High 6-A would work. Especially since Slayer thought she would be able to hurt him and he's over 20 times stronger than Sol. At the very worst she would be likely high 6-A with that being a very big likely.

 

[Overlord775]

She's definitely 6-A at worst because Millia always views her as really strong throughout pretty much every game. She can't be a mid tier because she needed someone else to subdue a berserk xx Dizzy and is inferior to Answer. I could replay May's XX route to see who she fought and how serious they were.

please do that

 

[Keeweed]

Ok so playing through her story, she defeated a bloodlusted Zato-1 but it seems he was close to dying. She couldn't do anything of note to stop dizzy and that's when she wanted to be stopped. Even when fighting her hardest Anji treats fighting her like a fun game and Faust while trying to be as nice as he can beats her when she's losing it a bit. So she'll either scale to being a bit above Millia or will scale to a completely bloodlusted Zato-1 (pre xrd obviously).

Though a thing of note she's implied to have the same awaken thing Baiken has due to being Japanese, but she never actives it in the story so I don't think it should be listed.

 

[Keeweed]

Unrelated, but don't forget we also need to edit the verse page to change it from everyone being low 1-C to everyone ranging from 6-A to high 6-A with some characters having low 1-C through hax.

 

[Overlord775]

alright, so 6-A via scaling to the peep

and yeah, that's a thing that must be done

 

[Overlord775]

okay, everything should be done now

 

[Keeweed]

okay, everything should be done now

Actually real quick, when I said high 6-A and stuff for the verse page I typed it that way just to save time on the comment. On the page it should be the full words. I would edit the page if I could to save you the time. However, since I can't do that, I'll just write out the words here so you can copy and paste them: Continent level, Multi-Continent level, Low Complex Multiverse level.

Edit: I think it is supposed to be the full words, now that I think about it I think some verse pages do use the numbers, but it would be better if they didn't.

 

[Overlord775]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa

 

[Overlord775]

Done

 

[Keeweed]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa

Sorry that is my bad. I promise that if we are ever in a CRT again were either of us can edit profiles I'll edit them next time (And I know that's going to happen because I'm still trying to revise Terraria a bit, I just need to get a mid term out of the way first).

 

[Antvasima]

So is there anything left to do here, and were the striking strength sections corrected?

 

[Overlord775]

nothing left, and yes, they were

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Just a question before this getting closed: Whenever Elphelt matches was created, is it fine to restrict Absolute Barrier: Felion?

 

[Keeweed]

Just a question before this getting closed: Whenever Elphelt matches was created, is it fine to restrict Absolute Barrier: Felion?

I don't even think she can active Felion on her own. The only time I remember her having it someone else activated it.

 

[Overlord775]

Ariels activated it, yeah

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Ah, getcha

 

[The_Impress]

So should I close this :v

 

[Overlord775]

the pages haven't been re-locked yet

 

[Overlord775]

@Antvasima

Need pages re-locked

 

[Overlord775]

a

 

[Antvasima]

I will lock the Guilty Gear pages with the Tier 1 category. Did you remove it from the characters that are only tier 6 now?

 

[Antvasima]

It seems so. I will close this thread then.

Thanks again for helping out.