Green Lantern vs Alien X (GRACE AGAIN)

[Greenshifter]

Is anyone interested in my take on the fight without VSBW's pages restrictions btw?

 

[CBslayeR]

Is anyone interested in my take on the fight without VSBW's pages restrictions btw?

Go right ahead, I'm interested

 

[sanicspood]

bump?

 

[Da_Lunge_Fish]

Hal time travels and cuts Ben's arm off FRA

 

[sanicspood]

Hal time travels and cuts Ben's arm off FRA

counted

 

[CBslayeR]

weren't you gonna remove all of the hal votes due to being invalid

 

[sanicspood]

weren't you gonna remove all of the hal votes due to being invalid

fine

 

[WarriorofMite]

GL fra

 

[MrLuk2000]

There is no “Hal FRA”.

The wincons Hal had for now were all debunked as it either gets countered, he won’t have the time, or the result is an incon at best. Did you guys not even read the previous comments to the thread?

 

[Sonicflare9]

whats the votes here

 

[MrLuk2000]

fine

As Greenshiter says, don’t remove the votes until the people who voted for Hal agrees, but your choice boss.

 

[MrLuk2000]

whats the votes here

It’s currently 0-4-0 in Alien X’s favor. It was 11-4-0 in Hal’s, but I refuted Hal’s wincons that were mentioned and the votes were removed.

 

[Sonicflare9]

X fra

 

[Greenshifter]

Hal time travels and cuts Ben's arm off FRA

Acausality type 2, also slower than EE and definitely not his first move. Also Omnitrix can still function and protect Ben when cut off if Hal is going for a lethal attack afterwards.

 

[CBslayeR]

he was making a death battle joke

 

[Greenshifter]

Could be, not convinced

 

[Da_Lunge_Fish]

Could be, not convinced

I was. Anyway is this over?

 

[sanicspood]

i removed the alien x votes cuz they were all debunked

 

[Da_Lunge_Fish]

i removed the alien x votes cuz they were all debunked

But Green Lantern was winning

 

[Da_Lunge_Fish]

Sanic why didn't you remove votes where it's actually needed

 

[Da_Lunge_Fish]

Wow...a lot has happened...anyway here's my response:

-Hal having more wincons

In a match like this where both combatants having thought based hax, having more win conditions literally doesn't matter. Its about what hax you use

-Hal's wincon of Sealing, Transmutation, or stealing Alien X's power

The latter of the 2, Alien X can counter via Time Manipulation. For stealing Alien X's power, while Alien X's power will get stolen at the same time Hal gets erased from existence.

-Hal's superior stats

Hal's superior stats doesn't matter as it looks like this battle is coming down to hax

-Fighting Experience

Again, literally doesn't matter here and its a non factor since the battle is gonna end as soon as it starts

-Hal one shotting

Hal one shotting would him require him creating a construct or aiming a energy projectile towards Alien X (or just punching him), but they're far apart. The moment Hal creates a construct or fires a projectile he's getting erased before he can even aim it at him. Even then, speed is equal and Alien X can dodge via spamming teleportation.

Let's go over all possible scenarios that were mentioned here

-Hal sealing

While Alien X gets sealed Hal gets erased and later Ben in the pocket dimension of Alien X can just rewind time and undo the sealing.

-Transmutation

Same as sealing. Hal lacks the range to affect the personalities and lacks the knowledge of the personalities. Even if he has information analysis, it doesn't matter as the fight is gonna end as soon as it begins

-Stealing X's powers

While X's powers are gone Hal again is erased. Depending on the win situation (KO? Death? Incap?) this is a toss up. If its by any then its incon as Hal is wiped from existence and Alien X is incapacitated. If its death then this is Alien X's victory

-One shotting

This requires Hal creating a construct or firing a projectile and aiming it towards Alien X. If Hal weapon constructs are thought based, the time it takes for him to create a construct he gets erased before he can even aim it at him.

Literally all of Hal's options that are mentioned are countered by Alien X (except the stealing powers one. Would like to know more info on that one). Any of the wincons Hal has that were mentioned, they either get countered or are not viable as he gets erased. Fighting experience doesn't matter as this fight is gonna be over as soon as it starts and they don't have comparable ap. Superior stats aren't gonna do anything as this battle is more on hax rather than ap.

Alien X takes this in most scenarios or an incon at best, depending on what Hal's starting move is.

If Hal is under the revision of getting EE resistance and it gets applied to his profile then this is a massive stomp for Hal as both mind hax and EE are resisted and the other haxes Alien X has are not combat applicable.

Wouldn't X, like, die from transmutation?

 

[sanicspood]

But Green Lantern was winning

ill put it back if the guy who made the wincons for ben would actually refute

 

[Rez]

Wouldn't X, like, die from transmutation?

Yes he will but alien x will ee faster in majority of the situations

 

[Greenshifter]

Wouldn't X, like, die from transmutation?

Does it kill, in-character and is it thought-based?

 

[Greenshifter]

ill put it back if the guy who made the wincons for ben would actually refute

I think you're messing up Hal's and Ben's names about 3 times now lol?

 

[sanicspood]

OMFG

 

[MrLuk2000]

Wouldn't X, like, die from transmutation?

Only if the personalities are affected as well (which they won’t). Hal lacks the range to affect them and so IF they get transmuatated, Ben can just rewind time and undo it.

 

[Rez]

Only if the personalities are affected as well (which they won’t). Hal lacks the range to affect them and so IF they get transmuatated, Ben can just rewind time and undo it.

Alien x doesn't have immortality type 9 so killing his physical body will end him the most his personalities can do are protect him from things like mind and soul manipulation because they lack range to reach them anyway the transmutation is not thought based so gl won't be able to do it faster than x erasing him and in character he won't kill him via transmutation anyway so Ben can just time reverse

 

[Greenshifter]

Only if the personalities are affected as well (which they won’t). Hal lacks the range to affect them and so IF they get transmuatated, Ben can just rewind time and undo it.

We still assume that destroying the body beyond it's regenerative capabilities destroys the PD, or at least that they can't just make a new body.

 

[sanicspood]

bump

 

[DragonLord]

You know that’s Hilarious, the Pocket Universe with the Personalities was the Weakness of Alien C throughout the Show yet actually gives him a ton of resistances here

I Vote for Alien X, put a stop to the Child Boot Stomper

although I do wonder how this thread would’ve gone if Alien X wasn’t bloodlusted

 

[CBslayeR]

Alien X would die

 

[Teezar]

If alien X isn't bloodlusted or speed isn't equalized.
Hal jordan easily stomps.

 

[DragonLord]

Alien X would die

If alien X isn't bloodlusted or speed isn't equalized.
Hal jordan easily stomps.

And With Post-Crisis?

 

[Teezar]

And With Post-Crisis?

Pre crisis and post flashpoint but post flashpoint hasn't been updated.

 

[Teezar]

Post flashpoint should be the most powerful version of hal if am not wrong but pre crisis is haxed than the rest and does insane speed feats.

 

[Ned_the_outer_god]

Better Speed

Speed Equal

Seriously?

 

[sanicspood]

You know that’s Hilarious, the Pocket Universe with the Personalities was the Weakness of Alien C throughout the Show yet actually gives him a ton of resistances here

I Vote for Alien X, put a stop to the Child Boot Stomper

although I do wonder how this thread would’ve gone if Alien X wasn’t bloodlusted

counted

 

[Da_Lunge_Fish]

And With Post-Crisis?

Hal blitzes and haxes

 

[Teezar]

Hal stomps alien X on and off wiki.

X only wins cause his bloodlusted here and speed is equalized while hal is in character.

But voting X FRA.