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Scans would be nice.
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Green Lantern vs Alien X (GRACE AGAIN)
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Got u brb with scans
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XSOULOFCINDERX
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Is that even Pre-Crisis?
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No that's post crisis.
Plus that Mandrakk wasn't at full power.
Plus that Mandrakk wasn't at full power.
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But not in this issue iirc. And even if he was multiversal (which he wasn't), this would be the biggest biggest outlier ever. Bunch of 4B Vs 1A...
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Yeah, that was a greatly weakened Mandrakk, wasn't it Rox in the universe or something?
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How fast is this Green Lantern?
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From the Calc,Alien X speed at least MFTL+ (Quadrillion xFTL i guest and possibly Decilioun)
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It doesn't matter because Speed is Equalized.
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Of i Forgot that one
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Green Space Cop FRA
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Time, huh? Thanks for the TIP FRA
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X is bloodlusted here
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Alien X can time reverse afterwards if his pocket dimension is unaffected (so if it doesn’t kill him).
Then he’ll get the personalities and incap himself.
Alien X literally leads with 2-B thought-based EE when bloodlusted which Hal doesn’t resist. It’s quite literally impossible to win against a bloodlusted Alien X unless you can counter his EE.
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Won't the ring automatically protect him from the EE?
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It's not on his profile and it protected him from anti matter based ee
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Only anti matter. If AX's EE is anti matter based, then sure. If not, then he won't resist it.
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Yes but it’s not on his page so it doesn’t count.
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Wow...a lot has happened...anyway here's my response:
-Hal having more wincons
In a match like this where both combatants having thought based hax, having more win conditions literally doesn't matter. Its about what hax you use
-Hal's wincon of Sealing, Transmutation, or stealing Alien X's power
The latter of the 2, Alien X can counter via Time Manipulation. For stealing Alien X's power, while Alien X's power will get stolen at the same time Hal gets erased from existence.
-Hal's superior stats
Hal's superior stats doesn't matter as it looks like this battle is coming down to hax
-Fighting Experience
Again, literally doesn't matter here and its a non factor since the battle is gonna end as soon as it starts
-Hal one shotting
Hal one shotting would him require him creating a construct or aiming a energy projectile towards Alien X (or just punching him), but they're far apart. The moment Hal creates a construct or fires a projectile he's getting erased before he can even aim it at him. Even then, speed is equal and Alien X can dodge via spamming teleportation.
Let's go over all possible scenarios that were mentioned here
-Hal sealing
While Alien X gets sealed Hal gets erased and later Ben in the pocket dimension of Alien X can just rewind time and undo the sealing.
-Transmutation
Same as sealing. Hal lacks the range to affect the personalities and lacks the knowledge of the personalities. Even if he has information analysis, it doesn't matter as the fight is gonna end as soon as it begins
-Stealing X's powers
While X's powers are gone Hal again is erased. Depending on the win situation (KO? Death? Incap?) this is a toss up. If its by any then its incon as Hal is wiped from existence and Alien X is incapacitated. If its death then this is Alien X's victory
-One shotting
This requires Hal creating a construct or firing a projectile and aiming it towards Alien X. If Hal weapon constructs are thought based, the time it takes for him to create a construct he gets erased before he can even aim it at him.
Literally all of Hal's options that are mentioned are countered by Alien X (except the stealing powers one. Would like to know more info on that one). Any of the wincons Hal has that were mentioned, they either get countered or are not viable as he gets erased. Fighting experience doesn't matter as this fight is gonna be over as soon as it starts and they don't have comparable ap. Superior stats aren't gonna do anything as this battle is more on hax rather than ap.
Alien X takes this in most scenarios or an incon at best, depending on what Hal's starting move is.
If Hal is under the revision of getting EE resistance and it gets applied to his profile then this is a massive stomp for Hal as both mind hax and EE are resisted and the other haxes Alien X has are not combat applicable.
-Hal having more wincons
In a match like this where both combatants having thought based hax, having more win conditions literally doesn't matter. Its about what hax you use
-Hal's wincon of Sealing, Transmutation, or stealing Alien X's power
The latter of the 2, Alien X can counter via Time Manipulation. For stealing Alien X's power, while Alien X's power will get stolen at the same time Hal gets erased from existence.
-Hal's superior stats
Hal's superior stats doesn't matter as it looks like this battle is coming down to hax
-Fighting Experience
Again, literally doesn't matter here and its a non factor since the battle is gonna end as soon as it starts
-Hal one shotting
Hal one shotting would him require him creating a construct or aiming a energy projectile towards Alien X (or just punching him), but they're far apart. The moment Hal creates a construct or fires a projectile he's getting erased before he can even aim it at him. Even then, speed is equal and Alien X can dodge via spamming teleportation.
Let's go over all possible scenarios that were mentioned here
-Hal sealing
While Alien X gets sealed Hal gets erased and later Ben in the pocket dimension of Alien X can just rewind time and undo the sealing.
-Transmutation
Same as sealing. Hal lacks the range to affect the personalities and lacks the knowledge of the personalities. Even if he has information analysis, it doesn't matter as the fight is gonna end as soon as it begins
-Stealing X's powers
While X's powers are gone Hal again is erased. Depending on the win situation (KO? Death? Incap?) this is a toss up. If its by any then its incon as Hal is wiped from existence and Alien X is incapacitated. If its death then this is Alien X's victory
-One shotting
This requires Hal creating a construct or firing a projectile and aiming it towards Alien X. If Hal weapon constructs are thought based, the time it takes for him to create a construct he gets erased before he can even aim it at him.
Literally all of Hal's options that are mentioned are countered by Alien X (except the stealing powers one. Would like to know more info on that one). Any of the wincons Hal has that were mentioned, they either get countered or are not viable as he gets erased. Fighting experience doesn't matter as this fight is gonna be over as soon as it starts and they don't have comparable ap. Superior stats aren't gonna do anything as this battle is more on hax rather than ap.
Alien X takes this in most scenarios or an incon at best, depending on what Hal's starting move is.
If Hal is under the revision of getting EE resistance and it gets applied to his profile then this is a massive stomp for Hal as both mind hax and EE are resisted and the other haxes Alien X has are not combat applicable.
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So nullify the votes for Hal? Considering 2, if not 3 of his wincons are based on stuff Alien X can counter.
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just wait for the dude who said these winconcs to concede to yall
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You already voted
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Voting alien X
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bump
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i guess grace is over?
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Lol. Seriously though, how does Hal even win?
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so i guess i have to remove alien x votes?
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Well some input from the people who voted Hal would be nice...?
Edit: Also I think you meant Hal's votes.
Edit: Also I think you meant Hal's votes.
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yea i meant hals whoops
