Gravity Falls: The Non-Bill Cipher Thread

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Introduction:

Well well well, Gravity Falls has been gaining some upgrades recently, huh?

The main ones have come for that one damn triangle (Mainly due to The Book of Bill and the Tier 1 CRT) and our pages for the humans have been outdated for a long amount of time, however, this has been changing due to the recent rework of Stanford Pines and the upgrade of the main cast's AP to 8-B and their reaction speed to Relativistic+

However, there are some stuff that i still want to comment on even though i already had other CRTs to make, so anyway, take a seat, and follow me through a revision of a series that ended 8 years ago (Yup, we are getting old)

The Content:

Spoiler: Dipper & Mabel profile reworks

Accelerated Evolution/Sandbox

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Spoiler: Additions & Removals

• Addition of Preparation, Social Influencing and Minor Martial Arts
• Addition of Statistics Amplification via Crystal Flashlight
• Addition of Time Travel, Mind Manipulation, Eletricity Manipulation, Dream Manipulation, Duplication/Subjective Reality, Ghost capture equipment powers and Unicord Hair abilities
• Change of Summoning to Necromancy
• Addition of a value for his travel speed
• Addition of Speed of Light attack speed via Memory and Magnet Gun (That is already accepted on Stanford's profile) and with the Crystal Flashlight (That is already accepted as per this calculation)

Accelerated Evolution/OperationMSP

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Spoiler: Additions & Removals

• Addition of Time Travel, Mind, Magnetism and Light Manipulation
• Addition of Explosion Manipulation
• Addition of Amulet and Potions abilities
• Addition of Speed of Light attack speed (Which is already accepted as per this calculation)

^ The travel speed value will also apply to everyone who is currently noted on their profiles to be able to keep up with Dipper and Mabel

"But Evolution, where are the Mindscape keys?"

Well....

Problems with the Mindscape key:
Not only the key can only be acessed and used in a very specific location, but the characters themselves don't gain any powers, rather being the Mindscape that makes them able to use their "new abilities", as stated by Stan here. Meaning that everyone that enters the Mindscape can technically have access to the powers the place gives.

Beyond that, the scaling to Bill Cipher is dubious given that Stanford directly says that Bill is weaker than he normally is inside a mind

As such, i think that the Mindscape keys should be removed due to what they can do in the episode being due to the location, not from themselves

Spoiler: P&A Sections Additions & Removals

Stanley Pines:

• Smoke Manipulation (Showed several times to have access to smoke bombs)
• Sleep Manipulation via potions (Used a potion to make an unnamed tourist asleep)
• Resistance to Fire Manipulation and Extreme Heat (Survived a "random wildfire", which are so hot that animals were instantly evaporized upon entering in contact with one)
• Resistance to Acid Manipulation (Was fine after being hit with acid by Darlene, with her acid being capable of instantly melting through concrete)

Stanford Pines:

• Dimensional Travel, BFR, Gravity Manipulation, Weather Manipulation , Electricity Manipulation and Light Manipulation with The Portal (The Portal pushed Stanford into itself and was responsable for trapping him inside the Nightmare Realm for 30 years. Mere side effects of The Portal's activaction includes gravitational anomalies, creation of storms, light outage and a great emission of light and eletricity, with all of these effects extending across the entire town of Gravity Falls)
• Fire Manipulation, Ice Manipulation, Matter Manipulation (Among the methods tried by Stanford to destroy The Book of Bill, it was included burning, freezing or even molecularly destabilizing it. His Bill-Proof Suit contains a dual flamethrower)
• Magic (Has access to several magical weapons. Wrote and described multiple spells on his Journals)

Wendy Corduroy:

• Camouflage (Showed and stated here)
• Acrobatics (Showed several times through the series, such as here)

Rumble McSkirmish:

• Minor Reality Warping (Can make things that enter in contact with him in the real world become video game-styled)

Pacifica:

• Explosion Manipulation with Beauty Pills (Beauty Pills found in the Crawlspace may cause "spontaneous face explosion" as a side effect, with Pacifica already using them to harm Mr. What's-His-Face)

GIFfany:

• Information Analysis (Showed here)
• Multilocation (Type 1. Her data can exist in more than one screen at once)
• Negation to Time Stop via Electricity Manipulation (Her electricity made her go back to normal after Soos paused her game)
• GIFfany should also receive the following: "Up to Relativistic+ travel speed via wires (Can travel through wires, where electricity travels at 90% the speed of light)" + a "Varies" rating for her second key since obviously not every single machine is 8-B

Blendin:

• Possibly Age Manipulation (As a former member of the Time Police and part of Time Baby's army, Blendin possibly have access to the methods used by the army to age people backwards, as it is implied this power is not limited to specific individuals)

Gideon:

• Weather Manipulation via Journal 2 (Stated that he could make a rain of blood)
• Attack Reflection via googles (Reflected a ray of light)
• Statistics Amplification with The Crystal Flashlight (Should be capable of doing the same as Mabel, whom used the flashlight in order to make her physically stronger and destroy a wall she previously couldn't)

Spoiler: Intelligence Upgrades?

Not 100% sure on that, but i will give it a try

Basically, Dipper and Gideon should receive an Intelligence upgrade in accord to the recent Intelligence revision to Stanley that upgraded him to "At least Genius"

In relation to Gideon:

• Gideon already outsmarted Stanley twice (Here and Here, with him being his "mortal enemy") and already outsmarted Dipper (Who has Gifted Intelligence, as noted by his profile) in the season 1 finale.
• Beyond that, he manipulated the entire town of Gravity Falls during the entirety of Season 1 into thinking he was a real psychic, had good intentions and that Stanley (Who, as noted by his profile, is extremely proficient at tricking and manipulating people, even doing so across the entire USA) was a fraud

In relation to Dipper:

• He should be comparable in Intelligence to Gideon given he already foled his schemes (In "Little Dipper") and was considered by him as a threat to his plan of stealing the Mystery Shack.
• Another interesting thing to add is that Stanford Pines (A Supergenius) saw potential on Dipper, considering Dip as a possible sucessor to him

As such, i think both should have Genius Intelligence

Spoiler: Old Man McGucket

McGucket's profile should note that he ins't smart on every type of human intelligence, but rather an inventor with supernatural intelligence and, at least before regaining his sanity, little to no common sense

His preparation time should not only cover his Low 1-C inventions, but also the dozens of robots he has built through his life

And last, but not least, McGucket should be straight up a Supergenius due to Stanford, mainly in Journal 3, constantly glazing how smart the former was, even in comparison to himself

Basically everything listed above is here:

Accelerated Evolution/Devil May Cry High 1-A Explanation page

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I also added Fire Manipulation, Breath Attack, Energy Projection and Explosion Manipulation to his preparation time. Beyond that, i only added Surface Scaling

Well, that's about it

There is stuff here that i ain't sure about, so any recommendations would be appreciated

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Agree: @RedReaper616 @StrymULTRA @Demon_Lord18 @King_Dom470 @TheOrangeGuy09 @RigelBR7

Disagree:

Neutral: @TheOrangeGuy09 (Dipper's Dream Manipulation)

 

[RedReaper616]

Robbie:

I agree with everything here EXCEPT this. Hirsch explained in the Gravity Falls Episode Commentary the Song didn't actually work. Robbie legitimately won over Wendy normally via his song, the issue was that Robbie was song-stealer/plagarist, and this is why Wendy broke up with him. (Because all the effort and love she percieved he put into the song was a lie.) So he wouldn't get this.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

I agree with everything here EXCEPT this. Hirsch explained in the Gravity Falls Episode Commentary the Song didn't actually work. Robbie legitimately won over Wendy normally via his song, the issue was that Robbie was song-stealer/plagarist, and this is why Wendy broke up with him. (Because all the effort and love she percieved he put into the song was a lie.) So he wouldn't get this.

Are you telling me that 50% of the episode's plot was for freaking nothing?

Fair enough, might link where he said that, just for the sake of confirmation?

 

[RedReaper616]

Sure! He says it here in Boyz Crazy’s Commentary. About 19 minutes in.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Agree with High 1-A DMC.

Anyway, a nitpick is that we don't type "with enough preparation time", we only put "with Preparation".

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Agree with High 1-A DMC.

Finally my efforts being recognized

Anyway, a nitpick is that we don't type "with enough preparation time", we only put "with Preparation".

I put that way to differentiate his 8-B robots from the Tier 1 Shacktron, similar to what Jimmy Neutron's profile does, which way do you think it would be better to index?

Also, what do you think of the rest of the thread?

 

[StrymULTRA]

I put that way to differentiate his 8-B robots from the Tier 1 Shacktron, similar to what Jimmy Neutron's profile does, which way do you think it would be better to index?

I took an example from this.

Also, what do you think of the rest of the thread?

I don't have a strong opinion on it, but looks good on a glance.

 

[Demon_Lord18]

 

[King_Dom470]

Agreed.

Also as a nifty little potential resistance for Stanley he could get Resistance to Acid, since he got sprayed in the face with the spider ladies acid and was basically fine despite the acid being able to instantly melt through concrete

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Agreed.

Also as a nifty little potential resistance for Stanley he could get Resistance to Acid, since he got sprayed in the face with the spider ladies acid and was basically fine despite the acid being able to instantly melt through concrete

This was something i was originally going to put on the thread but forgot to do so

Vote counted btw

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Everything I don't mention I agree with (besides the part that I did not look into yet obviously)

Change of Summoning to Necromancy

Maybe note that they will attack him too lul

• Addition of a value for his travel speed

Superhuman travel speed (Can keep up with the Multi-Bear, who should be at least as fast as real-life bears.[22]

Not a travel speed feat

Outran several darts[23])

This is valid but needs a calculation

^The travel speed value will also apply to everyone who is currently noted on their profiles to be able to keep up with Dipper and Mabel

Why? We would need a proof for keeping up specifically in running (not saying they shouldn't scale to their Travel Speed, it's just that you need justifications, and GF has a TON moments where they are comparable in running)

Beyond that, the scaling to Bill Cipher is dubious given that Stanford directly says that Bill is weaker than he normally is inside a mind

"Normally" was Weirdmageddon Bill at the time when Ford said that, not his base. Mindscape Bill should be equal to his base.
But I agree that they should be removed, but this should also mean that Ford & Bill "entering the comic" P&A should be removed for the same reasons as well


I'll go over the rest of OP later

 

[Bernkastelll]

Not really sure if I agree with Gifany's Time Stop stuff, the rest seems fine

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Everything I didn't mention I'm fine with, again

Resistance to Fire Manipulation and Extreme Heat (Survived a "random wildfire", which are so hot that animals were instantly evaporized upon entering in contact with one)

It's either a gag or applies to every single human in the verse

• Gravity Manipulation, Weather Manipulation and Light Manipulation with The Portal (Mere side effects of The Portal's activaction includes gravitational anomalies, creation of storms, light outage and a great emission of light, with all of these effects extending across the entire town of Gravity Falls)

It also produced electricity. Also why didn't you include the most obvious abilities ever: Portal Creation, Dimensional Travel and BFR?

Negation to Time Stop via Electricity Manipulation (Her electricity made her go back to normal after Soos paused her game)

Should put as a Resistance too (albeit Unconventional)

Blendin:

Why didn't you put all other haxes mentioned in the scan?

Gideon:

Shouldn't he also have Necromancy? And potentially abilities provided by Journal 3, like invading one's dreams.

Spoiler: Old Man McGucket

McGucket's profile should note that he ins't smart on every type of human intelligence, but rather an inventor with supernatural intelligence and, at least before regaining his sanity, little to no common sense

Spoiler: Old Man McGucket

I agree, but it's better to note that he gained his sanity back by the end of the series as well.

Also:

Dream Manipulation with Journal 3 (invade someone's dreams[18])

Stan's dreams were not invaded, only mind/memories, those are separate. This is also why Stan did not know who is Bill by the end of the episode and why Bill can enter Ford's dreams but not mind/memories.

Mind Manipulation with Mind-Control Ties (Invented by Stanford Pines, the Mind-Control ties work by one tie being worned by the person being mind-controlled, while the other is worned by the controller, with the wearer of the former being forced to mimic the words and movements of the controller[6])

I still think it should be Limited for everybody.

• Limited Forcefield Creation, Power Nullification, and Invulnerability (5D - Possibly 12D, Unicorn spell can create a barrier that nullifies Weirdness, reverting a totem that was transformed back to its original state, thus making it invulnerable to Bill Cipher's abilities, as also shown from Bill being uncapable of bypassing said barrier and thus forced to target parts that aren't covered from it[10][15])
  • Resistance to Madness Manipulation (Types 2 and 3), Reality Warping, Law Manipulation, Causality Manipulation, Physics Manipulation, Biological Manipulation, Transmutation and Petrification (5D - Possibly 12D, The Unicorn spell makes things unaffected from Weirdness, thus making it immune to the effects caused from Bill Cipher and the Weirdmageddon[10][15])

I'd say put types and dimensionality in bold.

And I still think some abilities should be put under Preparation.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

applies to every single human in the verse

It's a random wildfire tho

 

[King_Dom470]

It's either a gag or applies to every single human in the verse

Mabel and Stan are actually able to casually survive being hit with the light beam that could set his office on fire (Stan did get injured here but it was only his eyes the rest of him was fine)

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Mabel and Stan are actually able to casually survive being hit with the light beam that could set his office on fire (Stan did get injured here but it was only his eyes the rest of him was fine)

Fair enough, but this should apply to everybody

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

If you want to answer this comment just try to be pratical, not on the mood or have too much time to debate an extensive topic such as this due to some real-life problems

Maybe note that they will attack him too lul

Already on the weakness section

Not a travel speed feat

How exactly? They were showed to be physically comparable on their fight, i don't see any reason of why their travel speed should be greatly different

Why? We would need a proof for keeping up specifically in running (not saying they shouldn't scale to their Travel Speed, it's just that you need justifications, and GF has a TON moments where they are comparable in running)

I don't think we need examples for things that are extremely obvious

"Normally" was Weirdmageddon Bill at the time when Ford said that, not his base. Mindscape Bill should be equal to his base.

Ford was talking about Bill's nature in general, i don't think there is any proof of him specifically talking about his Weirdmageddon form

But I agree that they should be removed, but this should also mean that Ford & Bill "entering the comic" P&A should be removed for the same reasons as well

Try to remove it in other thread, i don't want to include any more separate content here and don't plan to touch on GF content for some time

Not really sure if I agree with Gifany's Time Stop stuff

Me neither, lol

Everything I didn't mention I'm fine with, again

It's either a gag or applies to every single human in the verse

Prove to me that any other human besides Stanley got hit by a random wildfire

It also produced electricity.

Scan?

Also why didn't you include the most obvious abilities ever: Portal Creation, Dimensional Travel and BFR?

Not sure on Portal Creation given the page about the ability describes it as being something that the user can use to quickly travel through multiple different places, while the Interdimensional Portal's use was extremely specific

BFR ins't really applicable due to how freaking slow the Portal pushs someone into it, but for indexing purposes? Sure

I think there was a reason to me don't include Dimensional Travel, but i don't remember it :V, i think it is fine to add it along with BFR

Should put as a Resistance too (albeit Unconventional)

Nah, negation works better on this case imo

Why didn't you put all other haxes mentioned in the scan?

Because:

1) Blendin never used the Time Bomb
2) He already has Time Travel on his profile

Shouldn't he also have Necromancy? And potentially abilities provided by Journal 3, like invading one's dreams.

Gideon never really read Journal 3, when he got his hands on it he just looked a few pages and didn't really read them

I agree, but it's better to note that he gained his sanity back by the end of the series as well.

It's.... Literally noted on the profile

Stan's dreams were not invaded, only mind/memories, those are separate. This is also why Stan did not know who is Bill by the end of the episode

I will give you the same answer i gave on the GD:

Stan says that the events of the episode happened on his dream and the characters got back to the real world only after Stan started to wake up

and why Bill can enter Ford's dreams but not mind/memories.

Me when Metal Plate:

I still think it should be Limited for everybody.

No, and i already explained to you on the GD why it shouldn't

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Mabel and Stan are actually able to casually survive being hit with the light beam that could set his office on fire (Stan did get injured here but it was only his eyes the rest of him was fine)

I don't think this is an applicable feat, Stanley got his eyes "burned" by the light of the rainbow, it's not like they literally burned

Also, only a very small part of the office got set on fire, the humans don't getting on fire after being hit by the rainbow shouldn't be a feat of any kind

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

If you want to answer this comment just try to be pratical, not on the mood or have the time to debate an extense topic due to some real-life problems

Alright

Already on the weakness section

How exactly? They were showed to be physically comparable on their fight, i don't see any reason of why their travel speed should be greatly different. I don't think we need examples for things that are extremely obvious

That's not how Travel Speed scaling works. Thanos does not have Subsonic+ Travel Speed due to scaling to Thor for example

Ford was talking about Bill's nature in general, i don't think there is any proof of him specifically talking about his Weirdmageddon form

Try to remove it in other thread, i don't want to include any more separate content here and don't plan to touch on GF content for some time

Prove to me that any other human besides Stanley got hit by a random wildfire

Squirrel was burnt due to sheer temperature iirc

Scan?

Right before everything turns into light, there is electricity from the portal

Not sure on Portal Creation given the page about the ability describes it as being something that the user can use to quickly travel through multiple different places, while the Interdimensional Portal's use was extremely specific

Limited Portal Creation then?

BFR ins't really applicable due to how freaking slow the Portal pushs someone into it, but for indexing purposes? Sure

I agree

I think there was a reason to me don't include Dimensional Travel, but i don't remember it :V, i think it is fine to add it along with BFR

Nah, negation works better on this case imo

Well it's technically resistance too, no?

Because:

1) Blendin never used the Time Bomb
2) He already has Time Travel on his profile

He should have access to it

Gideon never really read Journal 3, when he got his hands on it he just looked a few pages and didn't really read them

Yeah but he can theoretically read it? Idk if it counts

It's.... Literally noted on the profile

L me

I will give you the same answer i gave on the GD:

He only remembered Mabel's guys and not Bill, the latter one does not matter

Me when Metal Plate:

It shows that mind/memories =/= dreams

No, and i already explained to you on the GD why it shouldn't

I disagree but meh I'll do my own CRT for that

 

[King_Dom470]

I don't think this is an applicable feat, Stanley got his eyes "burned" by the light of the rainbow, it's not like they literally burned

Also, only a very small part of the office got set on fire, the humans don't getting on fire after being hit by the rainbow shouldn't be a feat of any kind

To be fair the footage cuts off right as the fire gets bigger and Mabel seems to start to panic at the sight of that so to me that implies that the fire got much bigger (Also it started to spread extremely quickly)

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

That's not how Travel Speed scaling works. Thanos does not have Subsonic+ Travel Speed due to scaling to Thor for example

1) Thanos profile don't even index his Travel Speed, lol
2) I don't really remember him moving more than idk, a few meters? On his fights against Thor and those comparable to him

Also, Dipper actually dodges Multi-Bear rushing into him and moves in tandem with the latter, so yeah, they definitely scale to each other

Squirrel was burnt due to sheer temperature iirc

Tbf, considering how the scene happens, it is very probable that it was a "random wildfire" (It would even qualify as one)

Also, none of the other objects or people got damaged, let alone died, from sheer temperature on the scene

Right before everything turns into light, there is electricity from the portal

Fair enough

Limited Portal Creation then?

Not Sure

Well it's technically resistance too, no?

She is able to nulify the effects of the Time Stop, not resist them, i think

He should have access to it

Blendin never showed any access to the Time Bombs

Yeah but he can theoretically read it? Idk if it counts

I don't think we should index something just because it can "possibly" happen, like, Hyper Sonic got removed from Modern Sonic's profile because he never used that transformation In-Canon

He only remembered Mabel's guys and not Bill, the latter one does not matter

He remembered the two guys before he just had dreamed with them

C'mon, you can't say that this ins't a reference to the episode events

It shows that mind/memories =/= dreams

Ok, and?

I disagree but meh I'll do my own CRT for that

Alright

To be fair the footage cuts off right as the fire gets bigger and Mabel seems to start to panic at the sight of that so to me that implies that the fire got much bigger (Also it started to spread extremely quickly)

Even then, we have no proof that Mabel and Stanley directly tanked the fire

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

1) Thanos profile don't even index his Travel Speed, lol
2) I don't really remember him moving more than idk, a few meters? On his fights against Thor and those comparable to him

Also, Dipper actually dodges Multi-Bear rushing into him and moves in tandem with the latter, so yeah, they definitely scale to each other

Yeah, this is kind of feats I’m looking for, just keeping up in combat is just R/C. For example, main cast has a lot of showing of running away of someone (like pterodactyl or woman-spider) and being comparable in that.

Tbf, considering how the scene happens, it is very probable that it was a "random wildfire" (It would even qualify as one)

Also, none of the other objects or people got damaged, let alone died, from sheer temperature on the scene

Fair enough

Not Sure

Imo should work

She is able to nulify the effects of the Time Stop, not resist them, i think

Bill has Unconventional Resistance to Petrification despite clearly being able to get petrified, c’mon now

Blendin never showed any access to the Time Bombs

He should as Time Police officer, with possibly/likely just like you did with Age Manip

I don't think we should index something just because it can "possibly" happen, like, Hyper Sonic got removed from Modern Sonic's profile because he never used that transformation In-Canon

That’s a different case tho. Gideon can read Journal 3 while running away or with prep in matchups, for example.

He remembered the two guys before he just had dreamed with them

Yeah, and these two guys were mentioned by Mabel before. Just like you can see in a dream smth you learnt yesterday.

C'mon, you can't say that this ins't a reference to the episode events

I was always thinking like that too tbh but the fact that he doesn’t know who Bill is contradicts that. I think

Ok, and?

You don’t get Dream Manipulation for entering one’s mind/memories

 

[King_Dom470]

Even then, we have no proof that Mabel and Stanley directly tanked the fire

They tanked the light that was hot enough to cause the fire, couple that with the fact that they could endure heat hot enough to burn animals alive and I'd say it's a fairly consistent resistance.

Also there is this scene which shows that Stan is capable of tanking being set on fire seeing as he's completely fine the next time we see him. In fact Dipper and Mabel don't even seem concerned at the fact that he just spontaneously burst into flames, Mabel even seemed confident he'd "be fine", you could honestly make the argument that Stan is just overreacting given how calm everyone else was.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Also there is this scene

Bro he literally linked to it in the OP, that’s why he is giving him resistance to heat in the first place

 

[King_Dom470]

Bro he literally linked to it in the OP, that’s why he is giving him resistance to heat in the first place

I was afraid of that happening

The video "isn't available in my country"

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Bill has Unconventional Resistance to Petrification despite clearly being able to get petrified, c’mon now

He has because his Mindscape form wasn't affected by the Petrification and could freely leave his physical body

GIFfany, however, would still be paused wasn't by the Eletricity nulifying the effects of the Time Stop

He should as Time Police officer, with possibly/likely just like you did with Age Manip

I did that because we don't know the methods Age manip can be acessed

We know the method of the Time Stop, and Blendin never showed to use the Time Bombs neither showed access to them

That’s a different case tho. Gideon can read Journal 3 while running away or with prep in matchups, for example.

Sonic could also technically transform into Hyper Sonic at any time

Yeah, and these two guys were mentioned by Mabel before. Just like you can see in a dream smth you learnt yesterday.

I was always thinking like that too tbh but the fact that he doesn’t know who Bill is contradicts that. I think

And he knowing who the guys are contradicts the Bill part.... Both parts are technically paradoxical to each other

Although i personally take him remembering who the guys are over him don't remembering Bill due to 1) Stanley don't knowing who Bill is important to the Plot and 2) We all know Bill has many different ways to destroy someone's memories

You don’t get Dream Manipulation for entering one’s mind/memories

I think i already saw some examples of characters gaining the ability due to that in other threads

Anyway, i will put you for disagree regarding Dream Manipulation, can we move on?

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

They tanked the light that was hot enough to cause the fire

Not wanting to be rude, but it ins't the relationship between fire and wood common sense?

couple that with the fact that they could endure heat hot enough to burn animals alive and I'd say it's a fairly consistent resistance.

Also there is this scene which shows that Stan is capable of tanking being set on fire seeing as he's completely fine the next time we see him. In fact Dipper and Mabel don't even seem concerned at the fact that he just spontaneously burst into flames, Mabel even seemed confident he'd "be fine", you could honestly make the argument that Stan is just overreacting given how calm everyone else was.

 

[King_Dom470]

I feel like i'm walking into a joke here but I have no idea what this means

Not wanting to be rude, but it ins't the relationship between fire and wood common sense?

Shine a flashlight onto a piece of hardwood and if it gets set on fire i'll eat a brick

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

I feel like i'm walking into a joke here but I have no idea what this means

That was kinda of the intent

Shine a flashlight onto a piece of hardwood and if it gets set on fire i'll eat a brick

Anyway, you don't disagree with the thread itself so this discussion is kinda of useless :V

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Anyway, i will put you for disagree regarding Dream Manipulation, can we move on?

Put me in neutral, but sure

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Bump

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Bump

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Through the darkness of future past

The magician longs wait to see

One chance out between two worlds

Bump walk with me

 

[RigelBR7]

Agreed

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Bump