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Ended my rewatch of Gravity Falls

It still is good as it was when i firstly watched it

Scaling-wise: I tried to collect almost every single P&A/feat that i found and started to do a rework of Dipper's profile
 
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Scaling-wise: I tried to collect almost every single P&A/feat that i found and started to do a rework of Dipper's profile
Then you'd like this.

 
I love how Bill is just the answer for any and all nonsense across reality. It’s hilarious.

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I found a HD PDF of this, if you're curious for more feats.
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Obviously given that piracy isn't allowed I can DM the link to you if you're interested.
 
  • I prefer current Dipper’s photo tbh.
  • He does not have Dream Manipulation tbh, he never altered dreams with it. Idk what ability even is this.
  • Didn’t Time Tape manipulate time when Dipper and Mabel used it for the first time? It reverted time.
  • Sealing into the Mirror was just Type 10 Ghost weakness.
  • Mind Manipulation should be limited ig?
  • Why would he have all of Unicorn Hair abilities if he never had other ingredients? At least never showed to possess. But ig since he did it with Ford it should be fine.
  • I’m pretty sure what you labeled as Subjective Reality is Reality Warping and not that.
  • Shouldn’t he have Incorporeality in his Mindscape form?
  • Why Mindscape LS is comparable to Bill?
  • Also the very idea of his Mindscape Key is kinda meh tbh. At least because he only can do it by entering another person’s mind, and will become normal once he wakes up. It also makes his enemies to have same RW as him.
  • Also, maybe better to put some abilities under Preparation ability?
That’s all for Dipper, gonna check out Mabel later.
 
I prefer current Dipper’s photo tbh.
Agree to disagree then

There ins't really a way i can answer to this without being this one :V

  • He does not have Dream Manipulation tbh, he never altered dreams with it. Idk what ability even is this.
Pretty sure Dream Manipulation also includes someone being capable of invading dreams

Its immersion
No:
Immersion is an ability which allows one to cross the boundary between fiction and reality and enter the imaginary locations depicted in books, paintings, movies etc.

I don't think the Mindscape is similar/qualifies as any of these

  • Didn’t Time Tape manipulate time when Dipper and Mabel used it for the first time? It reverted time.
I thought on that while making the profile, but giving the same "Time Travel" ability just send them through time in "Blendin's Game", i think it is safe to say that either the exact usage of the Time Tape was retconned or time seemingly being reverted in "The Time Traveler's Pig" was just a illustrative way to represent them time travelling

  • Sealing into the Mirror was just Type 10 Ghost weakness.
IIRC, according to Journal 3 it was a Category 4 weakness, unless Category 10 ghosts have the same abilities and weakness of the other ghosts

  • Mind Manipulation should be limited ig?
No, it is a full rating on Stanford's profile

The Mind Control itself ins't limited, rather it's usage is a bit specific

  • Why would he have all of Unicorn Hair abilities if he never had other ingredients? At least never showed to possess. But ig since he did it with Ford it should be fine.
That was my reasoning

  • I’m pretty sure what you labeled as Subjective Reality is Reality Warping and not that.
It is heavily implied by Stan that the powers comes directly from the imagination, which is textbook Subjective Reality

  • Shouldn’t he have Incorporeality in his Mindscape form?
Nonexistent Physiology and Abstract Existence already cover this ig

  • Why Mindscape LS is comparable to Bill?
They are showed to be overall comparable so i don't see why in LS it should be any different

  • Also the very idea of his Mindscape Key is kinda meh tbh. At least because he only can do it by entering another person’s mind, and will become normal once he wakes up. It also makes his enemies to have same RW as him.
It always sounded kinda meh to me too, so if anyone else wants to remove it i wouldn't be against the proposal ¯\(ツ)

  • Also, maybe better to put some abilities under Preparation ability?
I don't think he ever gained any ability through Preparation tbh, or at least any ability that deserves to be indexed
 
Is there is anything on The Book Bill/Journal 3/Any other GF Book that deservers to be indexed on the Humans profiles? Myself will do a reread of Lost Legends to see if i find any ability/feat (Mabel being able to see the Nightmare Realm without going insane is a Resistance to Madness Hax feat btw)
 
Is there is anything on The Book Bill/Journal 3/Any other GF Book that deservers to be indexed on the Humans profiles? Myself will do a reread of Lost Legends to see if i find any ability/feat (Mabel being able to see the Nightmare Realm without going insane is a Resistance to Madness Hax feat btw)
Tbh thats kinda wrong Nightmare Realm itself didnt make Mcgucket insane, it was Bill

Do we have any other feats for that "Nightmare realm madness 3)?
 
Fair enough

Shouldn't we also remove Stanford's resistance to Madness Hax from his profile due to that?
Hmm, well Bill straight up thinks Fords mind is strong and in Book of Bill he states he has secrets that weaker minds would go mad and blow up if they heard it which may imply Ford enduring the secrets of weirdness may be Madness 3.

Opinions?
 
Hmm, well Bill straight up thinks Fords mind is strong and in Book of Bill he states he has secrets that weaker minds would go mad and blow up if they heard it which may imply Ford enduring the secrets of weirdness may be Madness 3.

Opinions?
Where he said his mind is strong? I don't remember a specific moment where he says exactly that

Although, if this moment indeed exists, the addition should be fine
 
Agree to disagree then
Aight
Pretty sure Dream Manipulation also includes someone being capable of invading dreams
It is not dreams, it is Stan's mind and memories:
I thought on that while making the profile, but giving the same "Time Travel" ability just send them through time in "Blendin's Game", i think it is safe to say that either the exact usage of the Time Tape was retconned or time seemingly being reverted in "The Time Traveler's Pig" was just a illustrative way to represent them time travelling
Hmmm, makes sense then. It would also be weird for Time Travelers to rewind time cuz then there would be no future now I think of it (It works like this ig?)
IIRC, according to Journal 3 it was a Category 4 weakness, unless Category 10 ghosts have the same abilities and weakness of the other ghosts
In the episode with Pacifica, Dipper reads that it is their weakness iirc. I'll recheck that
No, it is a full rating on Stanford's profile

The Mind Control itself ins't limited, rather it's usage is a bit specific
Fine then.
That was my reasoning
Alright then.
I mean, I saw in Q&A people said that making wishes come to reality = RW
Nonexistent Physiology and Abstract Existence already cover this ig
No. Bill also has both of them btw.
They are showed to be overall comparable so i don't see why in LS it should be any different
Because there is no proof. You can by the same logic just add all of Bill's Mindscape P&A to Dipper.
It always sounded kinda meh to me too, so if anyone else wants to remove it i wouldn't be against the proposal ¯\(ツ)
Same ngl
I don't think he ever gained any ability through Preparation tbh, or at least any ability that deserves to be indexed
I mean, Unicorn Hair stuff should at least because it needs to be put correctly and stuff. Same with Mind Manip and getting into Stanley Mind
 
It is not dreams, it is Stan's mind and memories:
Stan says that the events of the episode happened on his dream and the characters got back to the real world only after Stan started to wake up

It would also be weird for Time Travelers to rewind time cuz then there would be no future now I think of it (It works like this ig?)
Kinda of, it is a bit hard to explain

In the episode with Pacifica, Dipper reads that it is their weakness iirc. I'll recheck that
Okay

Wishing for stuff happening =/= Stuff happening because you literally thought of it

No. Bill also has both of them btw.
Fair enough

Because there is no proof. You can by the same logic just add all of Bill's Mindscape P&A to Dipper.
They aren't comparable at all, we have no proof that Bill's powers on his mindscape key comes exclusively from his imagination like Dipper's does

I mean, Unicorn Hair stuff should at least because it needs to be put correctly and stuff. Same with Mind Manip and getting into Stanley Mind
I don't think mention these would really affect the Preparation ability or have a significant effect on it

Although i mentioned that he can create tools (Such as the Crystal Flashlight) with sufficient preparation time
 
Mabel should keep all her evidence of being superior to Dipper
I don't think there is any real evidence for that at all, she never really "bullied" Dipper physically as the profile says, they are actually quite comparable to each other as showed on their fights

I also doubt on the canonicity of "Rumble's Revenge" and the statement that supposedly makes she stronger than Dipper

Btw Mabel should not have Mindscape form, since she can’t access it freely unlike Dipper.
I will primairly wait for more input regarding what we should do with the Mindscape keys
 
This can be due to Mabel showing those guys before he went sleep. You see stuff in the dreams that you saw during the day. He also very specifically did not know who Bill is or anything related to that.
I mean yeah, but it is not same altering dreams or entering them, more like a weakness ngl.
Kinda of, it is a bit hard to explain
Yeah
Wishing for stuff happening =/= Stuff happening because you literally thought of it
It was about converting wish into reality, but fair enough I guess.
They aren't comparable at all, we have no proof that Bill's powers on his mindscape key comes exclusively from his imagination like Dipper's does
Then same applies to LS lmfao
I don't think mention these would really affect the Preparation ability or have a significant effect on it
I mean it was for the sake of accuracy, but it’s minor enough not to do that ig
Although i mentioned that he can create tools (Such as the Crystal Flashlight) with sufficient preparation time
Alright

I don't think there is any real evidence for that at all, she never really "bullied" Dipper physically as the profile says, they are actually quite comparable to each other as showed on their fights

I also doubt on the canonicity of "Rumble's Revenge" and the statement that supposedly makes she stronger than Dipper
Why was she ever thought of being stronger than Dipper again?
I will primairly wait for more input regarding what we should do with the Mindscape keys
Alright, me too then, but I’ll say I don’t think anybody should get such key besides Dipper since he’s the only one who both knows how to access it and use powers within it properly.
 
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