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Gravity Falls General Discussion Thread

TheOrangeGuy09 said:
No, I mean that one of Bill’s Henchmaniacs literally knocked TB to the past despite them coming from the future.
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This still goes in the problem of mundane objects being able to reach random points of time through just randomly drifting in the 4th dimension however.
 
When Bill says travel through time he is talking about a travel that humans cannot achieve, it is different than the fourth dimension thing since Dipper and Mabel can do it
 
StrymULTRA said:
This still goes in the problem of mundane objects being able to reach random points of time through just randomly drifting in the 4th dimension however.
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It was not in defense, I’m saying that it was established in TBoB too
ShionAH said:
When Bill says travel through time he is talking about a travel that humans cannot achieve, it is different than the fourth dimension thing since Dipper and Mabel can do it
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One of the interpretations I saw on YT is that he meant that humans can’t operate beyond linear chronology in a sense that we can’t go “2 BC - 3000 y. - 5 BC” or simply without the chronology, we have to go linearly like “2021 year - 2022 year - 2023 year - 2024 year”
But idk how much sense it makes, just saying
 
ShionAH said:
When Bill says travel through time he is talking about a travel that humans cannot achieve, it is different than the fourth dimension thing since Dipper and Mabel can do it
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Tbh now that I think about it, Ford was never being able to time travel, meaning that the method that Blendin uses is a different way of using the NR.
 
I think Fourth Dimension is just Axolotl’s dimension and since he is opposite of Bill it kinda makes sense for him to live in the same place as Bill but not messed up asf in terms of physics and causality
 
TheOrangeGuy09 said:
I think Fourth Dimension is just Axolotl’s dimension and since he is opposite of Bill it kinda makes sense for him to live in the same place as Bill but not messed up asf in terms of physics and causality
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You'd be right if the "attracted together like potato chips at the bottom of the bag" wasn't used for both though.
 
Kaiser: what WOULD Bill have done if Ford had decided (that is, been dumb enough) to take him up on his offer?
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Hirsch: Re: What Bill might have done, like all things that happen off camera, that question has no true canon answer. But if I had to speculate, in my gut I think Bill would have incinerated Ford on the spot the moment he got the formula to shut down the barrier. I don’t see Bill as a romantic, sweet, or charitable character. He’s a psychopath who takes what he can get. He sees people as toys and when he gets bored of playing with them tosses them aside. I think at that point he was done playing.
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Kaiser: Makes sense. There’s a decided inclination to read Bill as being sincerely impressed with Ford on some level because that’s the trope (i.e. Q in Star Trek), but it’s not quite in keeping with how things shook out, is it?
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Hirsch: That’s not how I imagine Bill. I see him as a serial manipulator. While he’s “seducing” you with flattery his brain is somewhere else imagining playing ping-pong with a severed head. But people are free to imagine any headcanon they like! I’m genuinely excited by other people’s interpretation of the characters–but I never forget my own.
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The second thing is supported from Bill only making Ford his backscratcher, and freeing him only when he needed the formula.

He was pretty much done with him otherwise, which makes me think... would we be still able to use this?
 
StrymULTRA said:
The second thing is supported from Bill only making Ford his backscratcher, and freeing him only when he needed the formula.

He was pretty much done with him otherwise, which makes me think... would we be still able to use this?
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To be honest Bill definitely wanted Ford, first thing he does after catching Ford trying to kill him is literally ask if Ford wants to join his team. Only after Ford rejects he goes mad
 
StrymULTRA said:
He was pretty much done with him otherwise, which makes me think... would we be still able to use this?
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I mean, that’s literally what he shows he would do if Barrier goes down, he also never lied in his deals, so yeah pretty much.

Also, if you read Alex’s answer, he says it is NOT canon and is just his mere speculation.
 
ShionAH said:
To be honest Bill definitely wanted Ford, first thing he does after catching Ford trying to kill him is literally ask if Ford wants to join his team. Only after Ford rejects he goes mad
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Now that I think about it, these things could happen, but they do not exclude Bill randomly murdering him for the heck of it, as he did threaten his own minions over mundane things multiple times.

More something like "Cool, you're one of us now! [Zaps him in nonexistence] Have fun in the team!"

Because, think about it. Bill's deals were always true, but Bill always manages to make them ****** up, but still being right:
  • With Dipper: Only said he wanted to "help" Dipper, but didn't specify how. He also was vague on what puppet he wanted until the very last moment.
  • With Ford: Ford wanted answers on why Gravity Falls had so much weirdness in it, Bill gave him the answer, one that Ford didn't like however.
  • With Mabel: Mabel wanted the summer to last forever, Bill granted her that in Mabelland, only though she'll be isolated in that small bubble.
  • With Blendin: Bledin wanted to not have to deal with Time Baby anymore, and that happened.
 
StrymULTRA said:
Now that I think about it, these things could happen, but they do not exclude Bill randomly murdering him for the heck of it, as he did threaten his own minions over mundane things multiple times.

More something like "Cool, you're one of us now! [Zaps him in nonexistence] Have fun in the team!"

Because, think about it. Bill's deals were always true, but Bill always manages to make them ****** up, but still being right:
  • With Dipper: Only said he wanted to "help" Dipper, but didn't specify how. He also was vague on what puppet he wanted until the very last moment.
  • With Ford: Ford wanted answers on why Gravity Falls had so much weirdness in it, Bill gave him the answer, one that Ford didn't like however.
  • With Mabel: Mabel wanted the summer to last forever, Bill granted her that in Mabelland, only though she'll be isolated in that small bubble.
  • With Blendin: Bledin wanted to not have to deal with Time Baby anymore, and that happened.
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That’s because he was pretty vague with his condition in the first place. However in this case he straight up shows what he will do if he gets the equation.
 
Can someone tell me how high is Bill's Plot Manip? Is it capable of altering reality as a whole any way he pleases or just low-scale plot manip? I'm trying to see if its comparable to my verses version of it.
 
Ar1216789 said:
Can someone tell me how high is Bill's Plot Manip? Is it capable of altering reality as a whole any way he pleases or just low-scale plot manip? I'm trying to see if its comparable to my verses version of it.
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We never seen it in combat, so we can't assume it's applicable in a fight.

Aka it's flavor that is there because of indexing.
 
StrymULTRA said:
We never seen it in combat, so we can't assume it's applicable in a fight.

Aka it's flavor that is there because of indexing.
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Would this version be better? (Context: A King Doughnut Ball invaded the game, changing it from Cookie Run to Doughnut Run, altering every character including the Executive Producer to Doughnut Balls and changing game mechanics)
 
Tho ngl it is indeed a bit sus as it's like... a single 8-B feat while the rest is generally 9-B, with 9-A being the maximum.

However, @Psychomaster35 told me a method to potentially make the Gideon feat in Tier 8 territory, so that at least 8-B will have some solid backing up.
 
I assume we don't know enough about the Beast for it to get an article, right?
 
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