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Gravity Falls General Discussion Thread

Though, it is interesting that the Multiverse here is titled “Basic Multiverse” (implying advanced ones exist), and that the card number is #151, which does mean even if there aren’t other Multiverse cards, there are more cards. Though their worth relative to the Multiverse obviously can’t be determined.
 
RedReaper616 said:
Not “Dennis only owning one.” It’s “Dennis owning THE ONLY one.”
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Yes, this card is the only one and there is no copy of it, but how does it imply there are no other multiverses? It can juts be that other multiverses are not “basic”, or have “weaknesses”, or have another card number, etc. etc.
It’s like if there is only one specific card in existence, it does not mean that there are no other cards of its type; it simply means there are no copies of that card.
 
I would say that the answer to this problem is simply that there are multiple timelines/realities, each with their own infinite set of universes and Nightmare Realm. Unless proven otherwise, there is only one Bill in the NR, not infinite, and despite Stan travelling to several Universes he didn't meet a single other Bill, which would be pretty absurd given that, according to Bill, there are an infinite amount. So either this is a huge retcon that contradicts literally everything in the show and outside of it or, the much more logical solution, this is a case similiar to the MCU, where there are a infinite amount of timelines/realities, each with their own infinite set of universes and Nightmare Realms. Only because something is called a Multiverse doesn't mean that it can't be a more complex structure than a 2-A one, see the MCU for reference, which is called a Multiverse despite actually having a uncountable infinite set of multiverses within it.
 
ThanatosX said:
I would say that the answer to this problem is simply that there are multiple timelines/realities, each with their own infinite set of universes and Nightmare Realm.
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That’s kinda what we meant by “infinite multiverses” tbh. Infinite amount of NRs with each of them containing infinite universes.
ThanatosX said:
Unless proven otherwise, there is only one Bill in the NR, not infinite, and despite Stan travelling to several Universes he didn't meet a single other Bill, which would be pretty absurd given that, according to Bill, there are an infinite amount. So either this is a huge retcon that contradicts literally everything in the show and outside of it or, the much more logical solution, this is a case similiar to the MCU, where there are a infinite amount of timelines/realities, each with their own infinite set of universes and Nightmare Realms. Only because something is called a Multiverse doesn't mean that it can't be a more complex structure than a 2-A one, see the MCU for reference, which is called a Multiverse despite actually having a uncountable infinite set of multiverses within it.
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Exactly, infinite Bills in one NR (with Ford supposedly being able to access those Bills) simply doesn’t make any sense at all, and I like where you’re getting it with name being a Multiverse not necessarily meaning it can’t be far complex than just that.
 
ThanatosX said:
I would say that the answer to this problem is simply that there are multiple timelines/realities, each with their own infinite set of universes and Nightmare Realm. Unless proven otherwise, there is only one Bill in the NR, not infinite, and despite Stan travelling to several Universes he didn't meet a single other Bill, which would be pretty absurd given that, according to Bill, there are an infinite amount. So either this is a huge retcon that contradicts literally everything in the show and outside of it or, the much more logical solution, this is a case similiar to the MCU, where there are a infinite amount of timelines/realities, each with their own infinite set of universes and Nightmare Realms. Only because something is called a Multiverse doesn't mean that it can't be a more complex structure than a 2-A one, see the MCU for reference, which is called a Multiverse despite actually having a uncountable infinite set of multiverses within it.
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There was one possible place Ford could have came across evidence of another Bill:
in Journal 3 we know that Ford encountered another reality that was nearly identical to his own, but where Stan never messed up his project I believe. In this world Bill tried to conquer it, but failed. We never hear our Bill mention this other reality or this version of Ford so it literally could have just been a separate Bill altogether.

Tho it has been a while since I read Journal 3, so anyone who has a copy feel free and check it.
 
You know, reading TBoB, it occurs to me—When you meet your parallel self, upon touch you and that entire reality ceases to be/gets destroyed. This isn’t just something Bill just makes up, either—It’s an explicitly real thing, as noted by Journal 3. Yet, in Don’t Dimension It, we had a whole Mabel War in the Nightmare Realm. Which implies that the Nightmare Realm can survive it somehow.

My personal thoughts so far is it’s due to the unique properties of the Realm. As it’s the Higher Dimensional Bulk Space to every reality, it’s connected to any and every reality, meaning that by proxy it acts as the in Between Place (something directly mention by Stanford in J3). So instead of it being like meeting your copy in another reality, it’s more like there’s an overlap of home realities. Or it could be due to the fundamental lawlessness of the Nightmare Realm, meaning the fundamental law of the Multiverse that causes universal destruction upon parallel self contact simply doesn’t exist/apply there.

This does open the question of why Anti-Mabel and Mabel (as well as others) were able to meet and come into contact in MAB-3L, though, as well as how you’re supposed to avoid death if there’s a Multiversal Law of Parallel Self Attraction that makes traveling the multiverse inherently bringing you closer to your demise.
 
RedReaper616 said:
This does open the question of why Anti-Mabel and Mabel (as well as others) were able to meet and come into contact in MAB-3L, though, as well as how you’re supposed to avoid death if there’s a Multiversal Law of Parallel Self Attraction that makes traveling the multiverse inherently bringing you closer to your demise.
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This also happens in the Curse of the Time Pirates' treasure, where in a bad ending Dipper and Mabel get attracted in an island full of alt. versions of themselves which all also got bad endings, with the explanation being the same.
 
Shacktron's profile:
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I can get the first ones, but why would Biological hax, Transmutation and Petrification be natural effects from the Weirdmageddon?,
 
Wouldnt technically Shacktorn be resistant to EVERYTHING Bill has?

And would every hax of Bill get a layer since we know he can get past Unicorn Barrier if he gets angry enough
 
Also, since the Unicorn Hair barrier drains power to nullify Weirdness as well, doesn’t that mean (given Bill’s powers gain a layer that bypasses the limited effects it has on Bill to begin with), that Bill would have not only a really solid argument for resistance to power absorption, but 2 layers of resistance to power absorption?
 
I wanna comb over the book briefly before the CRT. Especially since it gives me time to actually collect scans for some of the stuff, as well as allows me to fix certain things.

Like Removing Blood Absorption, as it turns out Bill was lying and using your bleed out to make you more receptive to his deceit.

EDIT: Well. I mean. Now that I think about it, he specifies he lied about what he needs the blood FOR. And we know the book literally opens its mouth and consumes your blood on the Cheating Death page, so it does absorb blood. Mm. Bad example.
 
I am making the CRT, should I make it look like Bill possessed me and write it with his personality?

Edit: I'll publish it tomorrow, you guys can use that time to mess with the sandbox
 
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Btw, does any of you have the page that talks about morality where Bill talks about the voices on his head? This might give him Multiple Selves Type 2
 
Accelerated_Evolution said:
No, i was rewriting Bill's profile to include the new P&A stuff
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Ofc I get the hard stuff...
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