Gravity falls CRT, definition of insanity edition.

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Plus, you knpw controlling time on a universal scale isn't low 2-c, right? You only get low 2-C if you have control over an entire universe.

Only controlling time is hax and not aplied to tier. Which is why 10-C frisk exists.

Only controlling space is at most high 3-A

Controlling time on a universal scale (despite the lack of actual proof) and controlling space over a town is only high 3-A

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

No, controlling time on a universal scale is Low 2-C. I'm just not sure if time baby had that level of time manipulation.

 

[Eficiente]

I'm just not sure if time baby had that level of time manipulation.

If there is no evidence of his time manip being at that level then that's it. Diavolo can erase time on a universal scale and that's just hax, Time Baby eating who knows what amount of time is less than that.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

No, controlling time on a universal scale is Low 2-C. I'm just not sure if time baby had that level of time manipulation.

It is not.

You only get low 2-C by controlling an entire universe, not just time. There are several characters who can manipulate time on a universal scale and don't get that rating.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

I'm fine with downgrading time baby to High 3-A and bill to at least High 3-A when restricted

 

[Totallynotchewbacca]

what is the rating for destroying one of the dimensions like 3rd or 5th dimension

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

what is the rating for destroying one of the dimensions like 3rd or 5th dimension

What are you talking about?

 

[Totallynotchewbacca]

i just want to know

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Make a questions and Answers then please. Wouldn't want to derail this again.

 

[Totallynotchewbacca]

no because bill destroyed the 2nd dimension and wanted to do the same with the 3rd

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Destroying the 2 dimension is 11-A, obviously.

The destroying the 3 dimension is already explained in the OP, and was already told to you too. It's enviremental destruction.

 

[Totallynotchewbacca]

he destroyed the 2nd dimension through conventional means it seemed and so this was likely not enviromental destruction especially how in the hologram aside from the hench maniacs playing with planets nothing was weird or anything like that

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

It seems? Please don't bring up stuff you have no proof of.


There is one low 2-C statement, it's enviremental damage. Him playing with planets=low 2-C? What?

The universe wasn't going to be destroyed by him, it was going to be destroyed by the laws of physics breaking.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

what is the rating for destroying one of the dimensions like 3rd or 5th dimension

3D = 3-A or High 3-A

5D = High 2-A

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

I think time baby's statement about him destroying existence is used to justify his 2-A and multiple admins agreed

But yes, restricted should be downgraded

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Time Baby's statement plus the Journal stating that he was a threat to the multiverse, which has infinite universes.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

But... wouldn't that make the 2-A statement enviremental damage?


If that is associated with the 2-A effects, then the danger he rapresented were the lack of rules breaking it down, not himself busting it.

 

[Totallynotchewbacca]

well get a knowledegeable member as they would know best i personally have become sick of the character at this point with all this discussion in the last few months so do what you want but at least get some of the experts opinion

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Creating rifts that can destroy universes is tier 2 to my knowledge.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Creating rifts that can destroy universes is tier 2 to my knowledge.

It isn't him destroying it. He is connecting it to a lawless place, which breaks the rules of the universe down, destroying it.

That is not aplicable to actual hits, and is only enviremental damage.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Why doesent bill have plot manipulation? He changed the show from saying "created by Alex hirsch" to "created by bill cipher"

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Why doesent bill have plot manipulation? He changed the show from saying "created by Alex hirsch" to "created by bill cipher"

That is merely fourth wall breaking and chaning the texts.

Again. if you want to add stuff, do so on another thread please.

 

[TheArsenal1212]

All of this gravity Falls stuff is giving me a headache. Like I love the series but it's actually absurd how much debate on Bill's tier it is.

Like Ricsi said, if there aren't enough/any concrete feats on Bill's 2C and Low 2C status, then he must be High 3A. I side with him here

 

[DMB_1]

Insanity bump

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

With all these Bill threads debating his tier, im surprised he's even High 2-A at all.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

...He's not? He's 2-A at full power.

 

[DMB_1]

With all these Bill threads debating his tier, im surprised he's even High 2-A at all.

SOmeone tried to upgrade him at that level, but it got rejected.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

My bad, 2-A. I thought he was High 2-A.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

On a phone, could anyone else write to cal to come here again please.

 

[DMB_1]

When are you guys gonna downgrade Bill to Dorito level?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

When are you guys gonna upgrade Bill to Dorito level?

Fixed it.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Illuminati un-confirmed

 

[Totallynotchewbacca]

wait was was even the reasoning for this thread when nothing suggests he was High 3-A he got the tier not because he killed time baby but because his influence would have spread across the universe basically instantly giving him control over it as seen as what he did with gravity falls just on a universal scale

also time baby said he would destroy the very fabric of existence and what he displayed is either a universe or multiverse or it represents both somehow but since he says dimension he most likely refering to a universe https://youtu.be/Ap8itdxoGFc?t=35

killing time baby was just supporting evidence and the multiverse was from the journal 3

 

[Elizhaa]

Bill's old reasoning for Low-2C rating

At least Universe level+ (Bill's entrance into the physical universe destroyed and distorted most of its natural laws, such as killing time and bringing inanimate objects to life. His influence will incredibly quickly spread over the universe, allowing him even more complete control than he already has. One-shot the Time Police and Time Baby, who governs space-time. Has outright stated that he has full control over space, matter and time)

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Oh, I forgot about that statement!

 

[Totallynotchewbacca]

so i guess that is that

 

[Elizhaa]

@ZacharyGrossman273, I understand.

 

[Elizhaa]

Honestly, I think it would better to add part of these old statements as supporting evidence for Bill's Attack Potency justification

 

[Totallynotchewbacca]

now this was breifly touched on in the wyrm thread where ant said he should be possibly High 2-A due to being said he was from the 5th dimension but his feats contradicted it but since bill doesn't contradict does that mean he could get a pontentially High 1-C due to us not knowing whether it was universes or dimensions those aliens existed in?

maybe

please

pretty please

I'm desperate

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

It was acknowledged that there wasn't any evidence to suggest that the 5th dimension was spatiotemporal and Wyrm demonstatred no feats anywhere close to that level, hence why he got downgraded.