Mf the result of the thread depends on it, how would it not be? I need to know whether or not it's a stomp. If this gun is an actual laser gun, Alejandro's speed would be equalized to Taco meaning the chances of him dodging would be near zero. It would be 10x easier for me and you if you just told me instead of being so needlessly stubborn.
Remember that Alejandro has all of his equipment, and that includes his Tranquilizer Balls+Slingshot and Leech Gun. He's got some winning conditions, especially since he is 17 kilotons stronger.
Mhm, Alejandro gonna take out and aim his slingshot when he got FTL one shot lasers shooting at him
The Leech gun is also an option.Mhm, Alejandro gonna take out and aim his slingshot when he got FTL one shot lasers shooting at him
Leech Gun on a taco? Good luck.
Her laser gun isn't even light speed at all nor does it really have any proof behind it lol, I'm pretty sure Alejandro still has a chance to dodge it anyway as it has no set of speed to speak of either way.Mhm, Alejandro gonna take out and aim his slingshot when he got FTL one shot lasers shooting at him
Not a stomp if Alejandro is stronger. Why do you think I listed his high end rating being used?
Oh, it has no set speed? It seemed really easy for you to say that. I thought you we're gonna dance around the topic for a dozen comments and then put words in my mouth. Thanks, Prop!
I hope you don't actually believe that if you are stronger than another character you can't get stomped.
You do realize she still has her Invisibow to make Alejandro spotting her harder, right?
You told me that Laser was her starting attack.
And why can't the same logic be that Taco also dodges? Alejandro's attacks aren't instant.
Like I said, Taco's skill feats haven't seen impressive to me.
May as well play some devil's advocate and say that Taco never dodged because at the time she was trying to hide her real persona by pretending to be an idiot. She could've tried dodging knowing the rocks were moving slow to her, but she wanted to keep her real persona a secret, hence why she didn't do it and instead chose to eat and spit the rocks out. Not only this, but in a wrestling challenge, Taco was able to "destroy" Bow (According to MePhone) in an offscreen match, and Bow herself is skilled at wielding chairs as weapons.
Don't see how it's devil's advocate if it's what you genuinely believe and been wholeheartedly supporting but ok.
I never said that the skill feat you presented was proof she couldn't dodge, I'm just saying it's not proof she is skilled. So you explaining the motivation behind why she didn't dodge doesn't move me.
I would need to know how skilled "skilled" is. What feats can she perform as a chair user?
This is more stamina and speed than agility. I also have zero clue how agile a cup of Orange Juice would be.
Believe it or not, I think it's negligible. I think the shape of a human body would be much harder than the shape of taco. Taco would still be harder to hit but not by much. Factor in the agility of Alejandro? I see Alejandro winning.
Seems misleading. He was in the middle of an action and not expecting it. He'd have to react, stop what he's doing, and dodge. Here he would be on guard and able to aim-dodge. If anything the fact he didn't react in time goes to show the speed of these tranquilizers and why I doubt Taco could dodge.
If you wanna know what happened there then here is the link to the episode. I’ll probably link to other Taco skill feats in a bit since I haven’t actually watched much II lately and I’ve been wanting to binge S2 for a while now.
I can see the intention of the episode is for Taco's skills to be impressive (hell, they straight up say she's agile) but you do understand how hard it is for me to evaluate that marathon, right?
You might as well watch the entirety of Season 1 (Available on YouTube) and then come back to this. Just 18 episodes with each one being 7-10 minutes long on average. Just a note, though, the early episodes are very cringy to watch, but that was only because the creator was like 11 at the time when he made this. The later episodes (Especially Season 2 and onwards) get much better in quality.
I think we should take the intention of the episode on this since Adam Katz (the creator of II) was around 15 when this was made (if I'm correct, which I might not be) so it probably would have been harder for him to implement combat skills very much. Anyways, what does Alejandro show in terms of combat skill?
IIRC he managed to avoid getting hit by soccer balls kicked at him (And even managed to impossibly rebound one when kicking one while he was defending), and he's a decent boxer being able to fight his brother in All-Stars.
The soccer ball feat is incredibly similar to Taco reflecting the rocks (which, as you have previously said, she probably would have been able to dodge) and I think Taco could avoid dealing with Alejandro’s boxing skills via Invisibow + Gun Spam.
Yes but even if I take the intention into account, where does that put me? How agile does this make Taco? High-school athlete? Pro level? Olympic? Maybe even superhuman? Because at face value I get nothing for this. Anything I assign her with would be pure guess work.
It's not, Alejandro has to track down where each ball is headed. The rocks damn near placed themselves into Taco's mouth.
By vote count, yeah. Are you going to vote?
And yet he still stayed in the spot he was in without moving from it when kicking the balls. Sure, Taco was also in the same spot because she was already facing the opposing team, but Alejandro had a sound cue of ball kicking to go off of which was why he was able to notice them.
Blud getting ran off the court by sour cream, I'm sick
He has to move his legs to kick them back. Not only does he do that, he follows it up by turning around to kick the other one. That level of placement is easily more skillful than what Taco did.
Can't promise you I'll get to it because my watch list is large but I'll try.
Yeah, honestly Taco has better arguments (lol)
It's Alejandrover
