Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara
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Where do Kratos' 3-4 layers of soul/mindhax come from? I see it mentioned a lot, but it doesn't seem like it's been described in detail.
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Y'all just ignored this...It comes from this:
5D = (Runic Magic/Primordial Magics = Jotnar Magic = Seidr Magic = Bifrost Magic = Vanir Magics) < Light of Alfheim < Energies of Tartarus < Magic of the Sisters of Fate
@Planck69 was supposed to make a scaling chain blog for magics and the cast but uh... forgot.
I'm still wondering why any of this is layered, though? I'm about to go to bed so I don't feel like checking more profiles, but I'm not confident about my chances if the other profiles are anything to go by.Y'all just ignored this...
Character profiles aren't the place to go in depth about layering, they are indexes nothing more. GoW has 3+ blogs going over anything from cosmology to general magic and its applications on the verse page, and simply searching "God of War" on the wiki will show you the blogs as well.Literally none of those profiles explain how the hax are layered.
I'm still wondering why any of this is layered, though? I'm about to go to bed so I don't feel like checking more profiles, but I'm not confident about my chances if the other profiles are anything to go by.
Yall can't just throw out character names and a bunch of arrows lmao, there's gotta be some basis for this and I just wanna know what it is.
Okay, but if they don't explain the hax layers I'm gonna literally explode and die.Character profiles aren't the place to go in depth about layering, they are indexes nothing more. GoW has 3+ blogs going over anything from cosmology to general magic and its applications on the verse page, and simply searching "God of War" on the wiki will show you the blogs as well.
you could literally just explain why any of this is layered..... i could do that shit for my own verses in 5 minutes, it's not hard lolShould I call the bomb defusal squad?
YesShould I call the bomb defusal squad?
you could literally just explain why any of this is layered..... i could do that shit for my own verses in 5 minutes, it's not hard lol
Assuming you have done your due dilligence reading profiles, I will gladly elaborate...... after lunch break.you could literally just explain why any of this is layered..... i could do that shit for my own verses in 5 minutes, it's not hard lol
If you feel the blogs and such aren't comprehensive enough you can make your grievances known to either planck or KLOL since they are the head honchos for those. Tbh my curiosity lies to what the catalyst for this thread is, seems intriguing.Okay, but if they don't explain the hax layers I'm gonna literally explode and die.
I cannot possibly imagine being so petty that the idea of someone asking for elaboration on a point is seen as something to try and "own" them over.He wants to make you do a marathon of GoW blogs. Cheeky bastard i know.
I just wanna know where the hax layers come from??If you feel the blogs and such aren't comprehensive enough you can make your grievances known to either planck or KLOL since they are the head honchos for those. Tbh my curiosity lies to what the catalyst for this thread it, seems intriguing.
"Hax layer scans I shall give to thee, if you've read my profiles three!" that's not really how this works man. do you have evidence or not.Assuming you have done your due dilligence reading profiles, I will gladly elaborate...... after lunch break.
I'm gonna have to cap on that.What the **** even is a "hax layer scan" LMAO
Do you seriously expect verses to explicitly mention hax layers in battleboarding language?
still no answers
It's. a scan. that is evidence of hax being layered. it doesn't have to explicitly use to word layer, it just has to be any evidence of hax working against someone who resists that ability. Can you provide that or not?What the **** even is a "hax layer scan" LMAO
Do you seriously expect verses to explicitly mention hax layers in battleboarding language?
Just... wait a bit, I guess? Wait for Crim and Planck to have their say.It's. a scan. that is evidence of hax being layered. it doesn't have to explicitly use to word layer, it just has to be any evidence of hax working against someone who resists that ability. Can you provide that or not?
Fun fact: Zeus also resists Hades' Soul hax and is completely impervious to them, yet for all this, the Spear of Destiny can just as easily kill him as the Sisters of Fate were freaking out on that front.The Spear of Destiny can destroy Kratos's soul with a graze, despite all of the above. You can see this on its page.
Me every time people ask about GoW scaling chain when it's already discussed verbatim in the GoW Discussion Thread and in the profiles at large as well as the Explanation Pages and people still refuse to look and demand to be spoonfed.Also, can people start putting the barest minimum of effort into looking for stuff they want rather than spontaneously combust from not being spoon-fed? I get asking for directions on finding this info, but you can find the pages in less than 5 seconds.
Fodder Monsters (Sirens) <<< Furies mental and illusionary torture<< Persephone MInd incap and BFR <<<<< Ares Psychic Mind Rape<<<<<<<< Fear Zeus Conceptual Mind Rape
There's also light of alfhiem somewhere in this.
It's. a scan. that is evidence of hax being layered. it doesn't have to explicitly use to word layer, it just has to be any evidence of hax working against someone who resists that ability. Can you provide that or not?
Kratos was victim to these torments untill he decided he didn't want to be victim anymore. So that's automatically another impressive layer of mental resistance and willpower.
- Illusion Creation, Reality Warping, Creation and Pocket Reality Manipulation (The Furies had the powers to turn their illusions into reality[1]. As a result, they are able to recreate entire landscapes and natural phenomena like cities, mountain ranges, storms, volcanoes and even the Moon and Sun)
- Weather Manipulation and Water Manipulation (Created a massive dimension containing several raging tempests, whirlwinds, whirlpools and erupting volcanoes)
- Duplication (Created several Spartan soldiers to hold off Kratos in their final battle)
- Mind Manipulation and Madness Manipulation (Type 2, the Furies drove their victims into insanity[2], as was the case with Aegaeon the Hecatonchires and Archimedes)
- Perception Manipulation, Empathic Manipulation and Social Influencing (Via seduction of her victims, in the case of Kratos)
- Soul Manipulation, Memory Manipulation, Vector Manipulation, Probability Manipulation, and Conceptual Manipulation (Type 3) (Stated alongside her Fury sisters to have attempted to torture Kratos and break his mind, body and soul[4], as well as being responsible for clouding Kratos' mind and preventing him from recollecting his memories of his past events, with the Furies maintaining the status quo by making Orkos his oathkeeper, until Kratos himself killed the Furies and then Orkos at his request[5]. Souls are composed of their form, the metaphysical nature of a being, their luck, their mind and their direction, which guides their path to their respective afterlife as per Mimir's words[6]. Damaging souls can shatter and fragment their memories as a consequence[7])
- Illusion Creation, Perception Manipulation and Reality Warping (Can resist the illusions of the Furies,[15] which is stated to warp the victim's senses[15] and even distort the area around them,[15] with proper focus on his mind[15] or with the Eyes of Truth[15])
- Mind Manipulation and Mind BFR (Resisted the Furies trying to torture him and break his mind, body and soul,[29] ultimately triumphing over and killing them.
Kratos breaks out of it before Atlas can smash while caught offgaurd.
- Mind Manipulation and BFR (Banished Kratos's mind to a different realm[6])
He can mind rape Kratos so thoroughly Kratos experiences tangible physical pain and injuries that he incurs in the raping done by Ares inside his mind. Like some sort of busted subjective reality torture.
- Mind Manipulation, Telepathy, Biological Manipulation, Pain Manipulation and Dream Manipulation (Possesses incrediblypowerfulmind-manipulating and telepathic powers. They are so powerful that they caused Kratos' ribcage to ache and skin to split and bleed[14])
- Incorporeality and Fear Manipulation (Is possessed by the evil of Fear from Pandora's Box, and wielded it against Kratos in their final conflict[4] and attempting to imbue it into what was left of his being after killing him[4])
- Possession and Empathic Manipulation (Now possesses full control of all the Great Evils due to being possessed by the strongest evil, Fear itself)
- Enhanced Soul Manipulation, Mind Manipulation, Memory Manipulation, Vector Manipulation, Probability Manipulation and Non-Physical Interaction (Conceptual level Type 1. The Great Evils and Hope imbue themselves within a being down to their very soul[30], affecting all of their mind, soul and very powers as gods[31][32][33]. Souls are composed of their form, the metaphysical nature of a being, their luck, their mind and their direction, which guides their path to their respective afterlife as per Mimir's words.[3] Damaging souls can shatter and fragment their memories as a consequence)
- Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1), Fear Manipulation, Empathic Manipulation, Possession and Statistics Reduction (Type 1. After Kratos unlocked Hope, he became unaffected by the energies and the effects of Fear Zeus, who is the very concept of Fear itself[24])
Never fear for I am here. Check Discord. I've sent you the fix.bro I copied straight from profiles, I'll die trying to fix all those links.
scarred the poor ginger boy.
Keep malding for all eternityDon't listen to anything KLOL says in terms of discord messages, he has sent Arc the most horrid images possible, scarred the poor ginger boy.
The cookbook still traumatising people I see.At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if in the next game he gets some infinite layer Persona level bullshit through some statement on a promotional guide or something.
1) Siren is a special grunt enemy in GoW games which have lore of driving people insane, seducing and mind controlling horny people and exploding brains. Just like in the myths, Kratos fights them in every game in some kind of variant. So basic fodder victim for Kratos.
2) Furies are are enforcers in the verse, they torture the people who break their vows/oaths. Be they Gods, Titans or Primordials. Their standard tactics involve reality warping, iluusions, mind haxing and other edgy torture methods to break their victims.
Kratos was victim to these torments untill he decided he didn't want to be victim anymore. So that's automatically another impressive layer of mental resistance and willpower.
3) Persephone is next, she can mentally incap Kratos and bfr his mind to someplace elsewhere, despite having immense resistance from Siren's/Furies before.
Kratos breaks out of it before Atlas can smash while caught offgaurd.
So that's third layer.
4) Ares is the next sicko on the list. He is the most busted out of all.
He can mind rape Kratos so thoroughly Kratos experiences tangible physical pain and injuries that he incurs in the raping done by Ares inside his mind. Like some sort of busted subjective reality torture.
By the time of last battle with Ares when Kratos had opened Pandora's box and absorbed Hope, Ares has to rely on physically recreating entire nightmare to **** with Kratos' mind. Even then Kratos retains his faculties without losing hope and goes on to defeat Ares. So there's your fourth layer.
5) Fear Zeus is the ultimate baddie, he straight up neg diffed Kratos, used his Fear itself to possess and infect Kratos' mind and shatter it. Kratos has his own inner mental character development moment which allows him to unlock Hope and shrug of Fear like it is some fodder grunt.
This is all on an uber Type 1 Conceptual level because of how Hope and Fear work.
That's your last ultimate layer of Mind Manip resistance. The most astronomically broken one.
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Hope that suffices your questions, and I hope my time was worth it. Because all of this could have been understood by Just reading Kratos's profile in like 5 mins.