Golden Age Superman Modern Key Upgrade

[Jared1111]

Post-Crisis forever alone in 4-B while the rest of the Super boys get to be Low 2-C/2-C is the true tragedy of this affair.

It's so sad... Alexa. Play Country Roads. https://youtu.be/vbN3CMOfNAg

 

[Firestorm808]

Yes. Post-Crisis is consistantly Tier 4.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Firestorm808/Superman_Feats_Timeline_Project

Base Tier Tally:

Tier 2: 3, Possibly 4

Tier 3: 1

Tier 4: 23

 

[Ionliosite]

I agree with the upgrade, Golden Age should be scaled to Prime instead of Post-Crisis.

 

[Antvasima]

Here are links to some members that you can ask to help out here:

Matthew Schroeder, Kepekley23, Sandman31, Zensum, C2 of Omego, Crimson Azoth, Eficiente, Qawsedf234, PrinceOfTheMorning, Ultima Reality, SuperAPM, LephyrTheRevanchist

Sandman is taking a break at the moment though.

Has anybody done this?

 

[SuperAPM]

Firestorm808 was the one who brought this thread to my attention, I'd imagine he's done the same with everyone else mentioned

 

[Firestorm808]

I contacted 3 of them yesterday. I have contacted more, now.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thanks.

 

[PrinceOfTheMorning]

Let's just follow this to its logical conclusion and bump Post-Crisis Supes to High 2-A already, okay?

 

[Qawsedf234]

I'm against a Low 2-C upgrade for any post crisis iteration of the character. The rating would be far to inconsistent with his scaling.

 

[Firestorm808]

What makes Kal-L inconsistent?

 

[Jared1111]

Let's just follow this to its logical conclusion and bump Post-Crisis Supes to High 2-A already, okay?

That's bullshit and you know it.

.... He's 1-A in base cause he hurt Soulfire Darkseid (who is also 1-A and canon, because shut your face) and Tier 0 with Miracle Machine since he can just win no matter what. He only fought Mandrakk with the Cosmic Armor because he thought it looked neat.

Sword of Superman is High 0+ because it makes him one with Elliot S! Maggin who is the best Superman writer, therefore above all other "writers".

 

[Ultima_Reality]

Yeah, this seems mostly fine.

also superman should be 1-A anyways, he scales to green lanterns who can battle against totally-legit-mandrakk and eventually kill him. he also should scale to the monitor, who had a satellite that brough swamp thing to space, which is beyond mathematics, so yea

 

[Jared1111]

Flash is 1-A because he beat up the Anti Monitor and a version of AM is 1-A so it counts.


Also for the sake of not detailing, I agree with the upgrade as well. Not really a stretch for a guy that 2-C to Low 2-C, though I do have my reservations on upgrading him but not Post-Crisis. Would seem weird to have us give it to only one character and may cause some confusion to new people wondering why a 4-B character had an even fight with a Universe buster. But that's mostly nitpicking.

 

[Antvasima]

I suppose that the consensus is to upgrade the Golden Age Superman then. Would you be willing to handle it POTM?

 

[SuperAPM]

If we go thorugh with the changes what will be the justification for his tiering? Simply scale him to Superboy-Prime, or will the "shattering the boundaries of space and time" feat be used in any way?

 

[Antvasima]

Probably both, as he apparently broke out of a prison that Prime had to exert himself against.

What do the rest of you think?

 

[Firestorm808]

Kal-L broke out of the dimension on his own when Prime needed help.

 

[SuperAPM]

Yeah, they seem to be roughly comparable. Makes sense being Pre-Crisis Kryptonians

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Is somebody experienced willing to appropriately update the page?

 

[PrinceOfTheMorning]

I can do it if Firestorm is too busy, otherwise I'll just wait for him.

 

[Antvasima]

I have unlocked the page. Tell me here when the two of you are done.

 

[KLOL506]

I also propose that Superman's Class K be upgraded to Class M. Cruiser ships weigh in over 20,000 tons or 2e+7 kg, which is Class M.

 

[Antvasima]

That should be fine then.

 

[SuperAPM]

I've made the changes to Superman (Original) 's page, if that's alright with you. If ther's nothing that needs to be added to it then you can lock it if need be.

 

[KLOL506]

There was a tiny grammatical error in your edit. I fixed it.

 

[SuperAPM]

Thanks for that, much appreciated

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for the help. Is there anything left to do here, or should I close this thread?

 

[GojiBoyForever]

Dont think so. Go ahead and close.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.