Goku vs edgy dragon

[DragonEmperor23]

Giratina goes for intangibility that's intangible to things that can hit ghosts as a first move, btw. And every one of Giratina's attacks distort causal law, and given Goku doesn't resist causality manipulation, gg no re.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Giratina He doesn't even have causality manipulation on his profile.

 

[Bobsican]

Giratina´s time to trigger the intangibility is like microseconds at most, with speed equalized, this means that Goku doesn´t have the time to hit Giratina to begin with (As I´m sure Goku will try to analyze it first only to find out he wasted his time), then gets haxed.

Yeah, unless I´m missing something, Giratina stomps.

 

[Dragopentling]

Nvm I looked at Gira's profile again. I don't see why Giratina shouldn't just spam antimatter attacks and BFRs all day. Does Goku even resist Antimatter Manipulation or Power Null?

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Yeah it's a stomp.

 

[Dragopentling]

Stomp in Spoopy Basilisk favor, imo.


"Kore Wa Stompu Desu Ga?"

 

[DMB_1]

Reliant on the Distortion World. While Goku can (currently) bust it easily (to my chagrin), he doesn't even know it exists, much less know its connection to Giratina. Giratina then realizes "oh shit" and screws with Goku's causality or something.

Nigh-Omnipresence (4-Dimensional as it is the Distortion World itself and if it dies, the Distortion World is wiped from existence. It's also the concept of Antimatter)

Talk about contradiction

 

[Dragopentling]

^what contradiction?

 

[DMB_1]

Giratina supposedly cannot die because of something that dies as he dies.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

You can't have Type 8 immortality based on something that dies when you die.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

That description says that if Giratina dies then the Distortion World dies too. Either its misworded or someone gave Giratina type 8 when in reality the Distortion World has type 8 on Giratina.

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

>Reliant on the Distortion World which is Giratina itself

>if it dies, the Distortion World (Giratina) ceases to exist

 

[DMB_1]

That description says that if Giratina dies then the Distortion World dies too. Either its misworded or someone gave Giratina type 8 when in reality the Distortion World has type 8 on Giratina.

Or simply, the writers of both versions ingored each other's decisions.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

>Dialga

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

I got extremely focused on the Dialga vs Goku thread, my bad

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Understandable

 

[Dragopentling]

Well if the Distortion World is erased, but not Giratina, the concept of Antimatter is still there, hence the Distortion World can be possibly recreated. There's not enough physical evidence for the latter, though.

 

[TriforcePower1]

The correlation between "I need to defeat the Pokémon" and "destroy this world" isn't causal. Cyrus is referring to the fact that he needs to destroy the Distortion world because he can't recreate the universe as he wants to because any interference in the main universe is countered by the distortion World. And obviously Giratina is trying to stop him. To further prove this, if you actually defeat Giratina, the Distortion world doesn't get destroyed.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Defeat or Kill?

 

[Schnee_One]

This feels spiteful. I feel like these vs threads are squeezed in to make the Poke gods look bad while Cal was trying to take a break.....smh

You sir, have literally no idea how wrong that statement is.....

 

[DMB_1]

Well if the Distortion World is erased, but not Giratina, the concept of Antimatter is still there, hence the Distortion World can be possibly recreated. There's not enough physical evidence for the latter, though.

Giratina's Abstract existence is only type 3, meaning he doesn't have Immortality reliant on the concept he embodies.

 

[TriforcePower1]

The statement used to prove that if you kill Giratina the Distortion world gets erased uses the word "defeat".

 

[Dragopentling]

You sir, have literally no idea how wrong that statement is.....

Maybe...

 

[Enryu_The_Red_Tower]

Has anyone realized that only one Giratina hit is able to send Goku to Distortion World? How did Giratina do with the Diamond?

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Has anyone realized that only one Giratina hit is able to send Goku to Distortion World? How did Giratina do with the Diamond?

There is discussion going on in the Pokemon God Tier thread for how Giratina and Distortion World are connected

 

[Akreious]

Unless we clear up on how the Distortion World and Giratina are connected, this thread really can't go anywhere besides "Goku can't do anything and loses" or "Goku does anything and wins"

 

[Kyle_Ramos]

Goku fra

 

[Bobsican]

But there is hardly enought stuff to just say FRA...

 

[Kyle_Ramos]

Goku has the AP to just one shot.

 

[Xerkser500]

And that means nothing until we clear up what Giratina's relationship with the distortion world is.

 

[Kyle_Ramos]

Doesnt he need to change form to enter it, tho?

 

[Dragopentling]

What have i miss goku stomping everbody?

Specifically Poke Gods WHILE revisions to latter are still being discussed.