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BakiHanma18 said:
Dienomite22 said:
Dante's magic is the limit so basically, no.
So wouldn't this be a stomp, because feasibly, Goku can't beat Dante?
A stomp is only a stomp when one side has no way of winning like for instance, if Goku had a passive fate hax ability which automatically allows him to win right at the start without Dante being able to do anything but that isn't the case here, Goku and Dante both can lose and both can win but Dante would hit his win button first which makes it a fair match.Also, Dante does have a limit to his magic but it just won't matter in this match and it's a basically a non issue.
 
So wouldn't this be a stomp, because feasibly, Goku can't beat Dante?
A stomp is only a stomp when one side has no way of winning like for instance, if Goku had a passive fate hax ability which automatically allows him to win right at the start without Dante being able to do anything but that isn't the case here, Goku and Dante both can lose and both can win but Dante would hit his win button first which makes it a fair match.Also, Dante does have a limit to his magic but it just won't matter in this match and it's a basically a non issue.

Ahhhhh, okay. So the voting continues with Dante winning 1-0
 
Why does Goku have all his transformations restricted while Dante is free to go? Lol
 
"Goku (DBS) post Future Trunks arc, all transformations restricted

Dante at his peak"
 
If someone can prove that Kaioken is what gives Goku time resist and not God Ki, then Goku's win condition just became more than just feasible
 
Almost 150 messages later, with 6 votes for Dante, you are going to add a multiplier that makes this a omega ultra huge AP and speed stomp ?

Kaioken alone, which is kazillion of times weaker than Blue, can make Goku 20X times stronger and faster, which surpasses Dante's speed and ap amps

Blue would make their difference go to...well, lol
 
Dante Demon Killah said:
Almost 150 messages later, with 6 votes for Dante, you are going to add a multiplier that makes this a omega ultra huge AP and speed stomp ?

Kaioken alone, which is kazillion of times weaker than Blue, can make Goku 20X times stronger and faster
True, but as you'll see above, it gets hard countered by DT timestop and Royal Guard.

Also, as for the late update... (lame excuse) Back against the wall, about to lose, only to come back? Just how Goku'd wanted itƒñú
 
Just a reminder that resistance doesn't mean immunity, Goku resisted a time stop that at max last less than a second while Dante can stop time way longer than that
 
Tony di bugalu said:
Just a reminder that resistance doesn't mean immunity, Goku resisted a time stop that at max last less than a second while Dante can stop time way longer than that
Also very true. If the DT TS is potent enough, Dante still wins
 
BakiHanma18 said:
Dante Demon Killah said:
Almost 150 messages later, with 6 votes for Dante, you are going to add a multiplier that makes this a omega ultra huge AP and speed stomp ?

Kaioken alone, which is kazillion of times weaker than Blue, can make Goku 20X times stronger and faster
True, but as you'll see above, it gets hard countered by DT timestop and Royal Guard.
Also, as for the late update... (lame excuse) Back against the wall, about to lose, only to come back? Just how Goku'd wanted itƒñú


Royal Guard can't block something up to thousands of times stronger than Dante, remember, Blue Kaioken is not Normal Kaioken, it have EVERYTHING that Blue gives to Goku which is superior to SS3, which is superior to SS2, which is superior to SS1, which is at least 2X stronger than Kaioken X20, that amps Goku's speed and ap up to 20X

The Chrono Heart (which is the power that stop time) needs contact to be activated, and Dante is not going to touch something faster than him by a lol amount of times
 
Bangle of Time is very out of character for post DMC1 Dante, he's not going to start with it

And you guys were talking about a power that stops time that triggers with DT, so it's the Chrono Heart
 
Making it base Goku with only the Kaioken is the fairest you can make it. If he can suddenly amp himself up to blue, he blitzes and ap stomps.

Seriously, why the hell would you change it so late into the game?
 
Any fight with Goku needs be Restricted to Base or one of his transformations, if you make one that he starts as base and go up to Blue Kaioken (which is one of his keys), then the fight goes crazy, since he can use this transformations that have huge multipliers for AP and Speed

Base Goku with or without Kaioken would be fair, with Dante winning thanks to his hax as the others already said
 
Dante Demon Killah said:
Any fight with Goku needs be Restricted to Base or one of his transformations, if you make one that he starts as base and go up to Blue Kaioken (which is one of his keys), then the fight goes crazy, since he can use this transformations that have huge multipliers for AP and Speed

Base Goku with or without Kaioken would be fair, with Dante winning thanks to his hax as the others already said
Alright, I understand, I'll change it back. In the future, when I make fights, I'll try to be more careful with who I pit up against each other. Thank you for helping me out with the OP and the fight
 
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