Goku vs Asura (Asura's Wrath)

[Spinoirr]

Universe 6 Saga Son Goku vs Asura (Asura's Wrath)

• speed is equal
• Universe 6 Saga Goku is being used and he starts in super saiyan god
• end game Asura is being used

Goku:
Asura:
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fight ost:

 

[Rikimarox2]

Hakai exists, so there's that.

What's the AP difference between the two?

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

Hakai is out of character for goku unless against someone with extreme regen... 1 sec while I read Asura's profile

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

Yeah, He's either Mafuba'ing or Hakai'ing this one

 

[Spinoirr]

Yeah, He's either Mafuba'ing or Hakai'ing this one

ok what about AP?

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

Im not familiar on any AP scales, though I don't think Hakai or Mafuba can be defined on standard terms of durability

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

Regardless, before I make my choice, Im waiting on Asura's argument for winning, though this seems very stacked against him

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

actually, I don't think Goku can win this one based on Asura's lifting class making it very difficult, if not impossible to keep him still long enough for Hakai to fully work or for Mafuba to come close to success

 

[Spinoirr]

might as well use current goku

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

might as well use current goku

Current would be a bit OP with his IT spam

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

So this Asura was able to completely stomp Chakravartin's The Creator by the end of their fight, like it wasn't even a contest by then. CtC One-Shot Asura the Destructor who was beating the hell out of Chakravartin's Base Form and Base Chakravartin could casually perform a feat that's like 8× Baseline 3-A. How far does Manga Goku scale above Baseline Universal because I'm assuming it's a lot.

 

[Spinoirr]

So this Asura was able to completely stomp Chakravartin's The Creator by the end of their fight, like it wasn't even a contest by then. CtC One-Shot Asura the Destructor who was beating the hell out of Chakravartin's Base Form and Base Chakravartin could casually perform a feat that's like 8× Baseline 3-A. How far does Manga Goku scale above Baseline Universal because I'm assuming it's a lot.

well the BoG feat is like 1x baseline but God Zamas is 15.999999646x Baseline and MSSB Goku fought on par with him

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

so Im assuming AP advantage to Goku with PSSB then?

 

[Spinoirr]

so Im assuming AP advantage to Goku with PSSB then?

then goku has a massive scaling chain after the God Zamas fight

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

Oop you took it to Granolah arc, righty, time to type a multi paragraph explanation of UI

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

So Basically Asura gets One-Shot here.

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

Asura has insane regen still the same

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

But god bind combo'ed with Hakai is... brutal if it's pulled off

(Note this is ooc)

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Asura has insane regen still the same

Doesn't mean much when Goku can literally punch him so hard that his entire body explodes.

 

[Spinoirr]

maybe i should use ToP Goku or Future trunks saga goku

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

Doesn't mean much when Goku can literally punch him so hard that his entire body explodes.

Immortality (Types 1, 2, 3 and 4)

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Immortality (Types 1, 2, 3 and 4)

That never stopped him from dying which takes a long ass time for his Resurrection to bring him back.

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

@Spinoirr btw, what's the arena?

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

@Spinoirr btw, what's the arena?

He never specified so by the rules of SBA, they automatically fight in Central Park.

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

wha-

 

[Peter1129]

well the BoG feat is like 1x baseline but God Zamas is 15.999999646x Baseline and MSSB Goku fought on par with him

Wait isn’t SSB the Super Saiyan Form of SSG? Why would they only be about 16x baseline?

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

wha-

Yeah, that's how SBA is written.

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

Wait isn’t SSB the Super Saiyan Form of SSG? Why would they only be about 16x baseline?

SSB from SSG boost is inconsistant with SSJ's jump, so individual scaling has to be used for SSB

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

that's my take, from my own knowledge

 

[Spinoirr]

Wait isn’t SSB the Super Saiyan Form of SSG? Why would they only be about 16x baseline?

nah, just means zamasu is stronger then what his calc says

 

[Peter1129]

nah, just means zamasu is stronger then what his calc says

So I’m guessing the manga profile still uses the 50x Super Saiyan multiplier right? If so wouldn’t that mean they are 66.3123946904x baseline 3-A with SSB even with their first key? Isn’t this an AP stomp?

 

[Spinoirr]

So I’m guessing the manga profile still uses the 50x Super Saiyan multiplier right? If so wouldn’t that mean they are 66.3123946904x baseline 3-A with SSB even with their first key? Isn’t this an AP stomp?

nah blue drains stamina so much in the early arcs, to the point where vegeta after using blue two times in a day made it 10% of 100% as strong aka weaker then ssj god

MSSB has the 50x power boost as its 100% of SSB (also SSB when they go into the form but it gets weaker after time)

 

[Spinoirr]

anyways changed it to Universe 6 saga

 

[Peter1129]

nah blue drains stamina so much in the early arcs, to the point where vegeta after using blue two times in a day made it 10% of 100% as strong aka weaker then ssj god

MSSB has the 50x power boost as its 100% of SSB (also SSB when they go into the form but it gets weaker after time)

Ahh so

Manga SSB ≈ 10x SSG

Manga CSSB = 50x SSG

 

[Spinoirr]

Ahh so

Manga SSB ≈ 10x SSG

Manga CSSB = 50x SSG

more like SSB is 50x god but the frist few seconds you go blue and it drains energy like ssj3

CSSB just has zero energy drain

 

[Spinoirr]

so basically goku needs to end the fight fast if he goes blue as he knows he will get weaker as time passes in blue

10% of Super Saiyan Blue alone is roughly comparable to the full power of the Super Saiyan God transformation

 

[Peter1129]

So SSB Goku is 50x SSG but right after he transforms he pretty much drops down to 10x SSG in a few seconds and gets even weaker overtime. Match still seems doable if that’s the case then.

 

[DaimaouAshura]

Shouldn't Asura resist Hakai because Chakravartin was erasing existence right and left in their fight
He states that he'd erase Asura right before having the whole plane disappear by just landing
Goku outpunches and probably outskills too though

 

[Spinoirr]

1.3x universal = SSG Goku < rof SSG Goku <<< 66 x universal = SSB Goku < U6 SSB Goku (332x universal due to SSG Goku being stronger than 10% blue vegeta)

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

Shouldn't Asura resist Hakai because Chakravartin was erasing existence right and left in their fight
He states that he'd erase Asura right before having the whole plane disappear by just landing
Goku outpunches and probably outskills too though

There's a future CRT in the works to update the P&A sections of Asura's Wrath since they're missing quite a few things but until then Goku unironically out haxxes on top of the above mentioned advantages.