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Goku, Vegeta, and Trunks are 3-A? Let's see

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To be fair Vegeta has been sorta inconsistent throughout DBS, i mean one moment his kicking tail and the next, he's getting absorbed by a purple goo

knowing that i'm up for a likely universal level for his profile
 
I vote no for Vegeta being 3-A until he shows that he deserves the upgrade (for example, getting mad and kicking SSR black as hard or harder than goku). He has been fodderized by black so many times I doubt it, tho.
 
guys keep in mind that goku and vegeta get zenkai boosts after battle

and black keeps getting instant zenkai boosts upon inury

so for all we know they wud have hit universe level a while back

keep in mind even ssb goku and vegeta at their first appearance were very close to universe level ....
 
The Living Tribunal1 said:
guys keep in mind that goku and vegeta get zenkai boosts after battle
and black keeps getting instant zenkai boosts upon inury

so for all we know they wud have hit universe level a while back

keep in mind even ssb goku and vegeta at their first appearance were very close to universe level ....
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^So this.

Since the frieza saga I have that idea. But being honest, I think that since U6 saga they could be 3-A
 
PaChi2 said:
I vote no for Vegeta being 3-A until he shows that he deserves the upgrade (for example, getting mad and kicking SSR black as hard or harder than goku). He has been fodderized by black so many times I doubt it, tho.
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Well as Tribunal said "The Zenkai Boosts", Vegeta has only really been fodderized by Black only once, and got a Zenkai boost from it, likely making him as strong as Goku again.
 
I'm aware of the zenkai, but how strong it makes them is based off more speculation than feats at this point.

Think its pretty clear, I vote no.
 
PostmodernD said:
I'm aware of the zenkai, but how strong it makes them is based off more speculation than feats at this point.

Think its pretty clear, I vote no.
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Well also scaling since Vegeta is comparable to or on par with Goku
 
But did vegeta get mad? Did he prove it? Or are you speculating? There is no "enraged vegeta" the same way there is no "kaioken x10 SSB vegeta", he didnt show it, you cant use it.
 
I agree that it is speculation.
 
Also how does a hybrid saiyan achieve god ki scratch that blue ki just from one incident and it took goku and Vegeta many years (speculate) to get god ki and trunk transforms Instantly. Come on tori. Lol
 
And vegeta and goku can both get angery and get a power boost specially vegeta who has shown in the past that he gets a big rage boost
 
PostmodernD said:
Again, I would point to things like dramatic flair. Outliers. These things happen in fiction all the time. Vote however you want, I can't support upgrading a character based off a single ocurance here.
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yea,this entire is outlier.In fact entire DBS is outlier

i mean serious now,considering SSG is 1/6 3-A at minimum,and SSB is at least x5 SSG they were 3-A at U6 arc.By this point they are just further into 3-A
 
yea,this entire is outlier.In fact entire DBS is outlier

i mean serious now,considering SSG is 1/6 3-A at minimum,and SSB is at least x5 SSG they were 3-A at U6 arc.By this point they are just further into 3-A

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It's just assumption you can't really prove it Vegeta was triggered at Black before goku for what he done to his family and got fodderized by Black while regular Goku could put better fight than him
 
@TLT1

I actually agree that Goku and Vegeta should probably be 3-A as regular SSB in this storyarc. However, we cannot know for certain, so "Likely 3-A" would have to be used.

I would also prefer more input from the staff, given that this is a rather controversial change.
 
Antvasima said:
@TLT1

I actually agree that Goku and Vegeta should probably be 3-A as regular SSB in this storyarc. However, we cannot know for certain, so "Likely 3-A" would have to be used.

I would also prefer more input from the staff, given that this is a rather controversial change.
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That works.
 
The Everlasting said:
I don't see how you can correlate this with an outlier when rage is a consistent thing in DB with how it boosts characters (Vegeta literally managed to pressure Beerus when Mystic Gohan could not, hell even the concept of a Super Saiyan adds to this). If a character gets a one-time boost that doesn't affect their regular statistics, I fail to see how it can be considered an outlier.
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I can see vegeta since when he was angry he was just as strong as ss3 goku, but Trunks ss1 or 2 (not sure) to SSB!? Highly unlikely.
 
Antvasima said:
@TLT1
I actually agree that Goku and Vegeta should probably be 3-A as regular SSB in this storyarc. However, we cannot know for certain, so "Likely 3-A" would have to be used.

I would also prefer more input from the staff, given that this is a rather controversial change.
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I think that U6 Saga could be 3-A, considering that SSB is already stronger than SSG, and after Frieza Saga they trained for 3 years Goku and Vegeta could be "Likely 3-A" in the U6 Saga

I mean, they got some zenkai now, but between that and the training for the U6 vs U7 tournament, did something truly relevant for their strength to increase?
 
I agree that they should be 3-A as of now, but I would like to say that tiering of 3-B and 3-A is weird. We should wait for people who are more input, seeing how 3-B has no range, multiplying/scaling on a range in 3-B gets screwy, no matter how high up it is.
 
Super Saiyan God Goku is 1/6 universe level (whatever exact level/number/energy value that'd be is unquantifiable) However the point is Super Saiyan God Goku multiplied by 6 would be a Universe Buster.

Since there is no feat or stated multiplier, except for the fact that'd it's clear that the 3 years of training with Whis, gaining a brand new far stronger form, more training and all these Zenkais would most likely give them at least a 6x boost in power. So I believe a "Likely 3-A" for U6 and a straight up 3-A for SSBKKx10 isn't too unreasonable.
 
I'm fine with it if everybody else is.

Likely 3-A regularly, 3-A with Kaioken or when enraged.
 
The real cal howard said:
I agree that they should be 3-A as of now, but I would like to say that tiering of 3-B and 3-A is weird. We should wait for people who are more input, seeing how 3-B has no range, multiplying/scaling on a range in 3-B gets screwy, no matter how high up it is.
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Yeah, but the thing is SSJG back in BOG alone was dangerously close to 3-A, and with the confusion of powerscaling, especially regarding Goku's current base form, god tier, and Trunks is still making this thing a mess.

Throw in Black's ridiculous reactive evolution, Saiyan Rage Boost, and possible Zenkai Boosts, and this whole arc makes me question there 3-B to 3-A range especially when they're angry
 
Exactly. I just wish that 3-B just had a range, even if it was a 1 million x gap, instead of N/A. That would make things soo much easier, considering they boarder on 3-A when the series started.
 
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