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Goku fights Perfect Cell too early

Like?

Because as far as I know, 100% Zygarde is > Yveltal and Xerneas >> 50% Zygarde and Diancie > Mega Mewtwo and Genesect >= Mega Ray >= Deoxys = Base Mewtwo.
 
I literally only stated I'd let them deal with the AP stuff since they're the ones who brought it up above. That's all. Why you want to argue about this when it isnt even a big deal is completely beyond me.
 
In regards to Goku, not Zygarde. Literally the first 3 replies.

Even so, it isnt a big deal to argue over so no offense but stop getting so argumentive over this. I wasnt the one who claimed Zygarde had the AP advantange, the people higher up in the thread did. Whether he does or not isn't my concern, hence why I said i'll leave it to them to argue about and thats it.
 
plus haze can easily be countered, simply using ki can mitigate and disperse effortlessly, as it has always been performed via breathing the attack out .
 
Goku should take this for the reasons stated above. Plus goku has fought enemies before that could fly when he couldn't like king piccolo and piccolo junior.
 
I made a thread on multipliers, so I can stop derailing. PaChi, could you do me a favor and remove all the derailing comments?
 
That felt way to sarcastic and in hindsight mine did too , ah well .

We gone far , may as well keep going and figure it out later .
 
The real cal howard said:
I made a thread on multipliers, so I can stop derailing. PaChi, could you do me a favor and remove all the derailing comments?
Gotcha. Removed everything since the Zygarde scaling thing until the end because, well, the kaioken stuff is just later.
 
My vote is also removed? lol!!!
 
Your vote was based on half the derailment. so yeah, that's that.
 
Okay, so Goku still has the AP advantage? Am I right?
 
Ok, je me fait à manger et je vote

├ëDIT: Sorry for the frensh language, it's a reflex now😁
 
So my vote still stands I guess!!!
 
I'd like to note that Kaioken only lasts for a heartbeat. It won't be on long enough TO be nullified. It works more as "oh I'm too far away to hit you? KAIOKEN!". Insert Kaio-What meme here. And in the case of Namek Saga Goku, it lasts longer sure. But he is MUCH more brutal with it's usage and if not dealt with early on, the damage would stack the longer the battle drags. Goku!
 
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