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Goku's dead here, he has plenty of time, also read the thread I explained why Goku claps.
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Goku fights Pape- what?
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You're contradicting the one shot page itself for your own bias. The x7.5 gap applies only to tiers where Joules are relevant.
And his opponent can even recover it on top on that lol.
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Goku doesn't have Immortality here. Weakness even say that SSJ3 drains stamina lol. Dragon Ball wank at his finest.
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I need more important sets before giving a vote, is Dragon Fist even restricted here?
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No idea, ngl. OP hints and that and it doesn't at the same time.
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If Dragon Fist isn't restricted Goku could pretty much one-shot here if he wants to finish off in quick pace, knowing the limitation of stamina the SSJ3 form imposes I think he would try a major shot.
Though, what exactly are their AP value just to keep something in mind?
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SSJ3 doesn't drain as much energy when Goku's dead. Goku fought janemba for a very long time and only lost when he got badly hurt and wasw never hindered by the stamina drain. You can call it wank all you like, it's fact.
Well this is for paper man: Kartana ~ 50% Zygarde >> Mega Mewtwo => Necrozma = 1.198368*10^68 J.
And this is for Goku 3.070048 × 1068 joules = Goku existing <<< Goku's actual power.
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Except that this Goku isn't dead on his profile.
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I mean, the scaling in yottafoes, Goku is high-end 3-C at this state.
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I don’t care about the match, but I am so annoyed with how we treat one shots. I’ve seen so many contradictory opinions on whether being able to shot someone in your verse should allow you to one shot someone else that scale to the same or less ap. I’m going to make a thread on that now.
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Well the OP says this is buu saga Goku who is dead in the first half but alive in the other, but the fusion reborn movie takes place AFTER buu saga and that's where SSJ3 gets the 3-C rating, but this Goku is DEAD. So I think to avoid confusion, OP should clarify whether this is fusion reborn movie when Goku is dead or hirudegarn movie where he's alive.
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I think you don't understand. Show me Immortality Type 7 on his profile.
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What the hell are you talking about?
When Goku is dead, SSJ3 doesn't drain his energy like it does when he's alive.
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He's not counted as dead on his profile, ergo lack Type 7 immortality.
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He is dead in his early buu saga and fusion reborn keys, dying in dragon ball doesn't grant immortality type 7, he is still almost the same as when he's alive but if he dies again he ceases to exist. But no matter, if you count him as alive then it would be his hirudegarn key which would clap even harder with dragon fist.
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Size is not a problem for goku at all. Anyway is this goku in the janemba fight or the hirudegarn fight? Basically is he dead or alive?
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He's alive.
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I'm on the Kartana side of the argument here, having read through this thread.
