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Warren_Valion

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Shouldn't Goku Black have Goku's resistance to existence erasure and empathic manipulation for the same reasons he has resistances of time stop and electricity manipulation?
 
Joseph619 said:
Why should he? He never tanked hakai nor there's any hint he could tank hakai.
He never shows any resistance to Time Stop or Electricity Manipulation either.

Nothing happened to Goku's body that made him resistant to existence erasure or empathic manipulation, he just showed that he could resist it, and anything Goku in his body can do, Zamasu can do as well as Goku Black.
 
Goku Black is not as strong as the Goku who tanked Sidra's hakai. Him being able to resist Hit's time stop is valid since Goku could resist Time Skip since U6 Arc
 
The real cal howard said:
While we're on the subject, why does Goku resist electricity manipulation?
Yeah that seems really random. Does it even need to be on his profile? Saiyans can shoot lightning ever since Cell saga.
 
Im acutally going to ask. Didnt Goku Black get Goku's body before Goku faced Hit in the U6 arc, which got him time resistance?

If so, why does the body Goku Black take have the same resisting stuff?
 
Yeah, but did he resist it, or just tank it?
 
You can search for it, but Goku was considerably higher than 8-C [Dura required to take lightning bolts] at the time.
 
it is because he resisted roshi's electricity for a very very long time without giving up....and also casually broke out of it as soon as he turned oozaru it happened in the very first martial arts tournament of db
 
Every character higher than 8-C can do the same, so i removed them from every Goku profile.
 
what has durability anything to do with electricity causing damage to the heart and insta kill?

durability only helps to tank the heat caused by the electricity and other effects it produces on the outer body and skin like burning, charring etc
 
As the current approaches 100 milliamps, ventricular fibrillation of the heart occurs - an uncoordinated twitching of the walls of the heart's ventricles which results in death.

Above 200 milliamps, the muscular contractions are so severe that the heart is forcibly clamped during the shock.

i just copy pasted this info from a physics site https://www.physics.ohio-state.edu/~p616/safety/fatal_current.html

but it is common knowledge that electricity can insta kill by damaging the heart
 
^That's actually true. Durability only protects the outside body while electricity can have lethal effects on the inside organs too, especially the heart. That's why 'resistance to electricity' is a thing otherwise all electricity related feats would just be durability feats and that would mean external durability = internal durability.

@Warren

Goku displayed those resistances after Black stole his body. Backward scaling doesn't work like that.
 
Zamasu saw Goku while fighting Hit and later stole his body, so he has resistance. Organs doesn't matter since as a Saiyan, they are more durable than the average human.
 
Organs do matter. Goku still gets killed by a heart virus.
 
So basically you are saying that external durability = internal durability?
 
In Dragon Ball chi users can enhance their body and organs dura, they normally can supress themself on a peaceful period/normal condition or to hide their power by the enemy.
 
There is a feat which actually supports this notion of external durability = internal durability for chi users.

When Buu went inside Vegito's body and tried to damage him from the inside, he failed. Also, Vegito with his ki, restricted Buu at one point inside his body so that he could hit him. But IIRC, it is anime only. Not sure though.
 
ProfessorKukui4Life said:
Im acutally going to ask. Didnt Goku Black get Goku's body before Goku faced Hit in the U6 arc, which got him time resistance?

If so, why does the body Goku Black take have the same resisting stuff?
No they met after the 2nd Goku vs Hit fight
 
even if internal durability is equal to external durability, current does not directly damage the heart but the heart clamps itself due to muscular contractions...that is why you need to be resistant to electricity, your durability has nothing to do with it internally...

also, if you want to remove these resistances, you have to make a crt for that specific purpose and consult with everyone first and then post the link of that specific crt in the revision you have made, you can't just take these decisions by yourself in a random crt...at least that is what i know about the rules of this site...
 
Goku resisted lightning from going up to Kami's lookout, and not really get phased by the numerous thunder strikes when getting closer to the tower.
 
I'm not sure i should bring it back, everyone would get said resistance since some characters took it like Vegeta taking Zamasu lightning, Piccolo shrugged electricity from a Cooler Squad member and Gt Vegeta survived the Dragon Thunder.
 
then how about we make crt for this discussion? i am now confused if surviving elecricity is taken as a resistance feat or durability feat in this site?

if it is a durability feat then why "resistance to electricity" even existed?

and if "resistance to electricity" exists then why is durability being dragged in it?

a separate crt will be good for discussion i think.
 
Maybe. Building level is the value we assigned when a character can take and survive a lightning bolt, but i think that there is a difference from characters that are clearly seen suffering by an electricity attack and those that shrugs them off with just their skin or are seen being unaffected in both skin, organs and also seen moving without problems while being hit by electricity.
 
i mean if you assign a value to it, then it basically became a durability feat.

i shall make a thread about whether survivng electricity should be counted as resistance or durability.
 
What OBD has and doesn't have is irrelevant.
 
Honestly i think he should just have Resistance to Electricity Manipulation since those are all the resistances Goku demonstrated before the "Future" Trunks Saga. And Resistance to Time Stop isn't a viable option either since that's only available for people that are about SSJBX10 tier at least and i'm definitely sure Future Trunks Saga Goku isn't 10x stronger than U6 Saga Goku.
 
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