Goku Black Saga questions

[Mickey1940]

Most people think that Goku got about 10 times stronger throughout the Goku Black arc via his fight with Hit

However

When Goku and Vegeta first went to the future to fight Black, Black was able to toy with SSGSS Vegeta in his Base form

After they went back to the future after completing their training in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, SSGSS Vegeta was stomping the likes of SSGSS Goku Black

The multiplier for SSGSS is MASSIVE. Considering the difference between SSJ3 (which is 4B) and SSJG (which is 3A), and then considering that SSGSS is probably 50 times that via it being SSJG + SSJ, and you get something in like the trillions if not more

So is it safe to say that Goku and Vegeta got trillions of times stronger during the Goku Black arc?

Ik it doesn't change their tier, but I just wanted to ask

 

[Omegas03]

Black's Base probably had God Power or SSJR in the Anime is Black's SSJ Form.

Oh, and I believe Goku got tens of times stronger throught the Black arc to match up SSR Black (who in Base was SSB tier previously) instead of saying he suddenly got 10x stronger because he fought Hit without the aid of Kaioken.

 

[Mickey1940]

Black's Base probably had God Power or SSJR in the Anime is Black's SSJ Form.
Oh, and I believe Goku got tens of times stronger throught the Black arc to match up SSR Black (who in Base was SSB tier previously) instead of saying he suddenly got 10x stronger because he fought Hit without the aid of Kaioken.

1. Are you talking about the God-Like Saiyan form? That form is still a subset of Base form, and Goku and Vegeta can stack God-Like Saiyan with SSGSS anyways, so it's still a multiplier difference of qadrillioins of times

2. SSJR in the anime is still the divine form of SSGSS, even in the anime. It wouldn't make sense otherwise

 

[Mickey1940]

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[Omegas03]

1- SSJB just has to be 10-50x God like Base form or SSJG since it's the difference from Base to SSJ. Goku and Vegeta didn't get quadrillions of times stronger after the Black arc.

2- Yeah I agree with that.

 

[Mickey1940]

1- SSJB just has to be 10-50x God like Base form or SSJG since it's the difference from Base to SSJ. Goku and Vegeta didn't get quadrillions of times stronger after the Black arc.
2- Yeah I agree with that.

then how come Goku can stack SSJG with God-Like Saiyan, like against Dyspo?

Also, how do we even know that Black has God-Like Saiyan?

 

[Omegas03]

Goku's Base was probably retconned in the ToP but I have no evidence for that. His Base was portrayed to be really OP compared to the rest until ToP.

Well, Black adapted to Goku style and showed an Godlike aura so it isn't far fetched. It sounds better than saying Goku and Vegeta getting over millions of times stronger from fighting Black, lol.

 

[Mickey1940]

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