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Instead of claiming so, substainate your claim.UchihaSlayer96 said:Broly being stronger than Gogeta is objectively wrong lol
Yes. If he had played around like Vegito usually does Broly would've adapted, But Gogeta took the fight seriously and went straight to Blue after realizing super saiyan wasn't going to cut it.Shubham Sonsurkar said:Gogeta would have defeated Broly in SSJ2. He just wanted to end the fight quickly judging he was adapting so quick ( Broly adapted and overcame both Goku and Vegeta's Years worth of training in mere minutes. He went from struggling against Base Vegeta to Bullying Both SSB Goku and Vegeta )
Jiren didn't necessarily fight seriously, but actually started using his real power. He only did that out of respect for them which was stated.ZERO7772 said:Blue being much stronger than red is common sense. It being 50 times stronger is when things get more complicated.
It's similar to how we are supposed to believe that UI is at least hundred of time s stronger than blue despite Jiren fighting seriously against universe 7 toward the end before Goku even pulled UI.
He was, he was trying to kill him in every form. He gave him no chance to even breathShubham Sonsurkar said:In SSJ he wasn't even trying to kill broly
It's all a convoluted mess, because Toei is afraid to scale the GoDs. I've already done tons of posts on my perspective regarding the scaling, so repeating the same argument would just be dull.Mickey1940 said:@Cryo
I was under the impression that SSGSS Gogeta is comparable to MUIS Goku and BUW Jiren individually
I agree. Broly was so strong he couldn't land an effective hit & was knocked around like cheese.Mulgara said:Broly > Gogeta, he went all out at the end.
Lmao you trollingMulgara said:Nah, he tanked all of Gogetas shitty attacks.
You dare call Gogeta's attack shittyMulgara said:Nah, he tanked all of Gogetas shitty attacks.
how so?EmperorRorepme said:Tbf they were pretty trash.
Beerus can adapt to Broly in UI, he can absorb expolosions, hakai, nullify conventional durability and that is not all. WTF are you talking about?Mulgara said:He doesn't have any hax that would threaten Broly, DB works simple, the stronger you are, the more resistent you are
Beerus hax didn't stop Vegeta in CSSJB beating him lol
Broly is probably stronger then Beerus, that includes UI Beerus as well. Also no, UI Beerus barely long long and Broly is too udrable and adapts way too quickly, he would snack on Beerus after fighting him for 5 seconds.Mr John West said:Beerus can adapt to Broly in UI, he can absorb expolosions, hakai, nullify conventional durability and that is not all. WTF are you talking about?Mulgara said:He doesn't have any hax that would threaten Broly, DB works simple, the stronger you are, the more resistent you are
Beerus hax didn't stop Vegeta in CSSJB beating him lol
You would reqire Hitchens Razor for that. Beerus made Vegeta his pet.
Wat? Fusion Zamasu was weaker than CSSB Goku and the only reason the battle went for as long was because Zamasu kept regenerating. Goku was doing way more damage to Zamasu with his attacks.UchihaSlayer96 said:Well if you Examine the Manga(which is canon to the Broly movie), Goku's Hakai worked on fusion Zamasu who was stronger than him at that point, and Goku's variation is much weaker than Beerus'.
Zamasu wasn't stronger, they were evenUchihaSlayer96 said:Well if you Examine the Manga(which is canon to the Broly movie), Goku's Hakai worked on fusion Zamasu who was stronger than him at that point, and Goku's variation is much weaker than Beerus'.
Also Beerus has Sealing as well, and is a far far superior martial artist so he can outskill.
In character Beerus would go for the lolhakai from the get-go, and that's not enough time for Broly to adaptMickey1940 said:Broly is probably stronger then Beerus, that includes UI Beerus as well. Also no, UI Beerus barely long long and Broly is too udrable and adapts way too quickly, he would snack on Beerus after fighting him for 5 seconds.Mr John West said:Beerus can adapt to Broly in UI, he can absorb expolosions, hakai, nullify conventional durability and that is not all. WTF are you talking about?Mulgara said:He doesn't have any hax that would threaten Broly, DB works simple, the stronger you are, the more resistent you are
Beerus hax didn't stop Vegeta in CSSJB beating him lol
You would reqire Hitchens Razor for that. Beerus made Vegeta his pet.
Absorbing explosions that are weaker then him ? His Hakai only worked on fodders, he nuffily energy much weaker then himself.
When has Beerus hax ever beaten someone stronger then himself ? Never
Broly would crush Beerus
So are you going to ignore the lore behind the speed and strength amp which you receive from UI? You should consider that instead of making delusive assertions which blatantly ignores interpretations which are not contradicted.Mr John West said:Broly is probably stronger then Beerus, that includes UI Beerus as well. Also no, UI Beerus barely long long and Broly is too udrable and adapts way too quickly, he would snack on Beerus after fighting him for 5 seconds.
Absorbing explosions that are weaker then him ? His Hakai only worked on fodders, he nuffily energy much weaker then himself. When has Beerus hax ever beaten someone stronger then himself ? Never
Broly would crush Beerus
faulty and irrelevant in here. stick to the subject, Brolys only factor is to hype gogeta in raw power, Gogeta is dimensions and bounds better in every other aspect from brolyMulgara said:So are you going to ignore the lore behind the speed and strength amp which you receive from UI? You should consider that instead of making delusive assertions which blatantly ignores interpretations which are not contradicted.Mr John West said:Broly is probably stronger then Beerus, that includes UI Beerus as well. Also no, UI Beerus barely long long and Broly is too udrable and adapts way too quickly, he would snack on Beerus after fighting him for 5 seconds.
Absorbing explosions that are weaker then him ? His Hakai only worked on fodders, he nuffily energy much weaker then himself. When has Beerus hax ever beaten someone stronger then himself ? Never
Broly would crush Beerus
I've also established that UI also allows you to adapt to your opponent, Broly`s reaction hax is a non - factor here and will be useless.
He can absorb explosions which amplify his attacks, so what is Broly going to do to stop it when he is already dead?
Since all of these "hax" Broly possess are useless and he seemingly has no resistance to Beerus`s hax, he will get haxstomped even if Broly is stronger. His hax working on weaker beings does not disprove his hax working on beings on his ballparks, that is purely faulty reasoning.