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How would Goku survive calling in Zen'o again? The one time he did use him, he had to use a time machine to escape before the destruction started.
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Goku 2-C
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If he is bloodlusted, i dont see how he would care getting killed.
and he can instant Teleport somewhere else anyways.
and he can instant Teleport somewhere else anyways.
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I agree with adding this button as additional equipment for Goku.
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How is this NOT combat aplicable?
It was canonically used against Zamasu.
It was canonically used against Zamasu.
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For the reasons already listed for most of this entire thread.
It's complete and uder outside help for Goku to call Zen'o in to stop him from losing.
It's no more than standard equipment. Not usuable for battle.
It's complete and uder outside help for Goku to call Zen'o in to stop him from losing.
It's no more than standard equipment. Not usuable for battle.
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Because we don't know if Zeno will actually fight for Goku once he is summoned. Goku barely survived last time he did.
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Goku easly made Zenou kill Zamasu.
And they are friends.
So i dont see this "We dont know if Zenou will fight for Goku" thing going anywhere.
And they are friends.
So i dont see this "We dont know if Zenou will fight for Goku" thing going anywhere.
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Yeah, this thing of the buttom is a bad idea: besides the possibility of Zen'o not helping Goku or killing him in the process, once Zen'o is summoned the battle will become "Zen'o vs. X character", and even if the result is accepted (what is impossible), the victory will be added to Zen'o wins, not Goku. So this is pretty much useless.
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It's like add tier High 1-C for everyone in Doctor Who with a cellphone because they can call The Doctor.
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This was literally addressed above and explained why both sides were different.Muuuuh said:
Also what Antoniofer said too.
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Doesn't Hoopa have stats like this for summoning creation duo?
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Hoopa is in the same boat as Naruto, Lucy, and everyone else above. His summoning powers are natural and he's no different than the latter mentioned.
Plus, unlike Goku and Zen'o, Hoopa can actually forcefully control the creation trio and use them as puppets of destruction.
Plus, unlike Goku and Zen'o, Hoopa can actually forcefully control the creation trio and use them as puppets of destruction.
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Final fantasy then, same thing,
Don't think Goku should get a tier upgrade or key with, just thing it should be added to his equipment.
Don't think Goku should get a tier upgrade or key with, just thing it should be added to his equipment.
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Agreed. Everything else im fine with as well except an upgrade or separate key.
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I agree with Ever. I don't think this is worth putting on the profile or giving a key.
I guess Jimmy Olsen is 4-B because he can call Superman for help with his watch.
I guess Jimmy Olsen is 4-B because he can call Superman for help with his watch.
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Sup Matt, it has been a long while, huh
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Wait, nevermind, you're not her. I just got confused for a moment.
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Actually, yeah if Jimmy has that watch it should be listed, doesn't mean it can be ysed though.
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Indeed. Add this to his equipment.
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At best it is an addition to Equipment. It doesn't give you a Tier since it isn't even a weapon, it's the equivalent of a phonecall.
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Yeah? No one within the last handful of posts imply it should.
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It's like rating me as Peak Human if I had a friend that's a UFC fighter and could call him to beat someone up for me. Except he might not even beat the person up for me. He could even just decide to beat me up instead.The Everlasting said:
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Can SpiderMan call the avengers whenever he wants?
@Ryu
Man, you got weird friends.
@Ryu
Man, you got weird friends.
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Yeah its like giving Final Fantasy characters their summons.
Oh wait...
Oh wait...
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But ryu , if ya got a magic button that summons ya to the UFC fighter or him to ya, it's a bit different.
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I just imagined Ryu getting into a fight and calling his high school friend who is a UFC fighter to beat up his opponent, but instead he goes like "You coward. Calling me to solve your fights, i´m gonna teach you a lesson!" and beats him up instead.
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No.
This is ridiculous. We laughed at this once before for a reason. While I love y'all, I'm appalled you entertained this for so long. I'd normally soften that up or not say that, but this is an instance when I need to be blunt.
Closing. Don't reopen.
This is ridiculous. We laughed at this once before for a reason. While I love y'all, I'm appalled you entertained this for so long. I'd normally soften that up or not say that, but this is an instance when I need to be blunt.
Closing. Don't reopen.
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Just opening for a sec to confirm that nearly everyone here said its okay as equipment just not as something combat applicable.A
Also, Cal, read the thread before you say something...
Also, Cal, read the thread before you say something...
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I just wanted to mention that I definitely agree with The Everlasting, Matthew, Ryukama, and The real cal howard that calling for help from another character should not be counted as a higher tier.
That said, we can simply mention the button in Goku's equipment.
That said, we can simply mention the button in Goku's equipment.
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Sorry for another reopen but one final thing I wanted to point out.
Zeno never shielded or protected Goku at all when he was about to nuke Zamasu. Nor did he appear to have any plans of doing so. Goku specifically ran away into the time machine to avoid being collateral damage of this.
So the one instance of the Zeno Button being used that people want to argue for was an instance where Zeno was going to kill Goku. Yet we're to use this as proof he will 100% always fight on Goku's behalf no question and is completely guaranteed to protect him from all danger...
Also Zeno put Goku in a death arena where he will erase him, his family, his friends, his home and everything Goku ever held dear if he's to lose. They can hardly be said to be really friends with each other.
We know Zeno is more than willing to kill Goku, and he can unpredictably be provoked into destroying Goku if he were to piss him off. But even with no uncertainty of whether or not he will fight for Goku, I still disagree that calling someone for help should count as a feat for your own power. Which I think most others came to a similar conclusion.
Since the other staff want this closed, users can go to my wall if they want and I'll answer tomorrow when I'm done sleeping.
Zeno never shielded or protected Goku at all when he was about to nuke Zamasu. Nor did he appear to have any plans of doing so. Goku specifically ran away into the time machine to avoid being collateral damage of this.
So the one instance of the Zeno Button being used that people want to argue for was an instance where Zeno was going to kill Goku. Yet we're to use this as proof he will 100% always fight on Goku's behalf no question and is completely guaranteed to protect him from all danger...
Also Zeno put Goku in a death arena where he will erase him, his family, his friends, his home and everything Goku ever held dear if he's to lose. They can hardly be said to be really friends with each other.
We know Zeno is more than willing to kill Goku, and he can unpredictably be provoked into destroying Goku if he were to piss him off. But even with no uncertainty of whether or not he will fight for Goku, I still disagree that calling someone for help should count as a feat for your own power. Which I think most others came to a similar conclusion.
Since the other staff want this closed, users can go to my wall if they want and I'll answer tomorrow when I'm done sleeping.
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