Stand users can see the fundamental information that comprises and the false duality of matter/soul and into the void that underlies said information? I didn't see that on the profiles.
What? That doesn't matter, it's still layered all the same.
A normal basic bitch ghost with +5 layers like Darmani from Zelda
idk why that mf has five layers, and 3 layers above normal zelda ghosts, but he do wouldn't be seen by Gojo either, despite "just" being a ghost, it simply has too many layers of "dudes who can see stuff, can't see this"
What matters is how many bullshit layers it has.
They're tied here, and WoU's perception manip
which gojo has zero res too btw makes it so he can't unless inducted.
Can you show scans of the IC dip at match start?
They're on the profile? Like, a fuckton? I know because I'm the dude who added them all
You also didn't address how it's going to act when getting flooded with an infinite stream of info.
The fact it doesn't need to? Calamity is 100% automatic, kill Toru, incap WoU, none of that matters, Calamity, the universal law that WoU's stand body is just an abstract avatar of, will continue all the same. Neither Toru nor WoU itself have any control over it, it acts automatically, and neither needs to be aware of it, and most of the time, aren't aware of it, they just kinda let it happen.
Also, also, by dipping and not getting hit by that at all because that isn't something Gojo leads with 0.1 seconds into a fight with an unknown foe? Also, also the fact WoU has teleportation and can definitely just escape in under 1/10th of a second.
Ok? Being thought based doesn't allow it to bypass infinity.
You misunderstood, it's based on Gojo's thoughts, not his. If Gojo thinks "man, i wanna meet him, fight him, get in his way, etc", he's inducted.
Yes he will need to interact with Infinity, you didn't prove that assertion. If he can't interact with Infinity he is never going to be able to effect Gojo who is essentially in his own dimension.
I want a statement saying this. Explicitly.
Yeah no, you can't give him abilities outside of the scope of what he's shown. Type 2 concept of Infinity would be way outside of his scope.
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Actually thinking on it, not really? Calamity is a "flow", which as we see in Part 7, actually CAN wacky infinity shit via Johnny's Holes that spiral down into infinity and enter the gap between dimensions, but ignoring that.
Dude it's a type of power null, Gojo ain't resisting shit.
That's not how debating works.
I'm not really here to convince you, and most people seem to be fine with it so....
No it wouldn't you are using circular logic here. You need to prove at it's core, that calamity and the stand can interface with the conceptual infinity. He can't powernull something he can't interact with, he can't "mess with infinity" if he can't interact with it, and Gojo will never be targeted thanks to infinity, meaning he is never getting the misfortune from it.
No offense, but you're wanking the **** out of funny distance hax and extrapolating it to be "well it's KINDA like a different space-time", then acting like it literally is, when it isn't, at all. In reality, I shouldn't even be humoring this, Gojo and Infinity still exist in reality, they can still be targeted by the law that encompasses the whole world. In fact, it took an attack literally not existing fused with an energy that surpasses all the laws of the world to hit him.
Once again, CT in jujutsu utilizing concept targeting as the basis for their techniques, and someone like Yuki, was able to make herself untargetable via morphing her mass, and we already know that others can't target Gojo through infinity even if they can see him and spawn on target attacks to where they "think" he is.
Calamity is a whole ass universal law that covers the whole universe my dude, they don't "need" to target him, he already exists within its range, unless he LITERALLY doesn't exist or isn't a part of reality (being an infinite distance away, in the center of reality, is still being in reality my dude).
k and that leaves you at square one still, how is he interacting with Infinity as a power when he doesn't have the NPI?
He does have NPI tho? Layered even. Bro's a Stand.
Sounds like he can still be hit with a domain expansion, which inherently traps him in pocket reality via void manip and powernulls any defense/instantly fills him with infinite info.
Vanishes the moment the match starts, like I can not stress enough he doesn't stick around, he even has a standard tactics section saying as much. Also the fact he can exist multiple places at the same time, and demanifest at will.
Like bro can just like, demanifest himself and choose not to exist anymore in the DE.
'm not, you're literally trying to shoehorn calamity to interacting with things it never has.
Yeah, the universe within Jojo. Infinity is not in Jojo's and the stand has never interacted with a dimension like infinity. So please stop the nonsense claims about me stretching things when you're literally trying to skirt how abilities interact.
Ignoring the fact Calamity is an aspect of 'Flow', which has given 'Flow' is an aspect of fate. Infinity isn't even an alt dimension wtf
Why wouldn't it? Gojo doesn't have to consciously check boxes for his infinity which is active 24/7 for him and also protects him from esoteric threats. Jujutsu itself is inherently conceptual in nature to boot, so I don't really see how that'd be relevant.
I'm taking this admission he won't, you basically just said "he has this other stuff added so this would too".
He doesn't need to check it constantly, and yeah, it's automatic, but it's only automatic AFTER he adds said thing to it, he still has to have it set so it's a thing it negates it in the first place.
Calamity is an abstract
universal law, 4D in nature, that manipulates even fate itself. JJK having concepts doesn't segue into it being the same, and even then, Gojo would need to decide which "concepts" even then. And hell, what about Stand energy? That's also a completely distinct energy form you even need layered NPI to interact with that is unlike anything in JJK that Gojo would have absolutely no idea that it existed and thus wouldn't have Infinity set to negate it to start with.
And yes, case and point, Infinity doesn't exist in JoJo
id argue Love Train is what you're trying to argue Infinity acts like to, as that's an actual alternate dimension the user is within that things cant reach but, neither does Calamity in JJK, as such, here's absolutely no reason to think Gojo would have Infinity set up to negate it.
Well gojo teleported from the bottom of the Mariana trench to Kenjaku's position in Japan in an instant, so I'd say they are about equal then.
So? It doesn't matter how good his teleportation is if he doesn't know where they ****** off to, which, he won't. Like, a dude can have 1000km TP, that ain't helping him find where Batman went.
also none of this explains how Gojo is getting past the fact he's going to literally starve to death because any food and drink he attempts to consume will instantly become tainted and riddled with diseases and aids before he even touches it. I 100% know Infinity ain't saving the pack of doritos or bottled water from getting hit by calamity.
But that requires how you think Wonder of U would effect other Stand abilities tbh.
WOU could effect Josuke's Stand bubbles and Explosive Spin Bubbles, so it can effect Stand energy.
