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Gojo vs Johnny

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Still have no idea why we scale Tusk Act 4 and Diego's The World to MFTL+ feats from part 3 but whatevs

****** uhhh what can Gojo do to prevent himself from being turned into that one girl from Uzumaki?
 
Domain Expansion: Unlimited BS

Johnny has no distinct speed indicated for his stand keys, which are classified separately, with Tusk Act 4 not being considered attack speed. Therefore Tusk Act 4 clearly makes him a MFTL man who gets equalized to Go/jo's level! (I would say MFTL cripple but that only applies to Acts 2 and 3 for the same nonsense)

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ReaperAndBlues said:
Speed equalization rules never cease to be stupid for some characters. Notably ones with far higher reaction or perception speed than combat speed, or in this case, technically attack speed.
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I think we should stop being cowards and just remove speed equal entirely 🗿
 
Chariot190 said:
Equalizing speed is just the coward's way of saying one of the mfs gets stomped.
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I just use it to make fights more interesting sometimes. Especially when one character has higher AP, and another has high speed, turning the whole fight into a confusing mess.

Da3ggman said:
Still have no idea why we scale Tusk Act 4 and Diego's The World to MFTL+ feats from part 3 but whatevs

****** uhhh what can Gojo do to prevent himself from being turned into that one girl from Uzumaki?
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On the topic of Tusk scaling to The World from Part 3, iirc, there's a pretty good amount of evidence scaling them to each other. In JoJoveller, part 7 The World doesn't even get its own page. Instead, there's a tiny blurb that talks about it and again, iirc, emphasizes its similarity to the one in part 3. Basically, everything points to them being similar enough to at least downscale part 7 TW off the original. Plus, Tusk downscales off of him as well since he's barely even able to tag his shoulder during their fight.

Granted, part 7 speed scaling is absolutely all over the place to begin with, but I'd take this though over some of the other garbage agenda crap people push about part 7.
 
StekFence said:
Why don’t we just equalize the stands speed instead of the user, since it’s the primary combatant
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But they arent the primary combatant. They're a summon, sometimes not even that, sometimes a tool or even a gun.
Would you speed equal a match to a gunman's gun?

Also then the issue in reverse, now the main body is like 1000000x slower and cant react to anything, which would null the match anyway because it'd be a win via blitzing a dude normally quicker than you (99% of the time).
 
DavidTPPM said:
40? More like 99% lmao
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Yeah, I was being a bit generous, most matches on the wiki would be impossible.

Not to mention the fact that there are characters who have tiers of speed that don't align with the speed of the others in their AP tier. A lot of tier 1s are immeasurable, so obviously a tier 1 that isn't would get f*cked by most of the others in that tier, i.e Toaru top tiers or Guilty Gear top tiers, both being sub-rel and rel+ respectively. This also applies to the reverse, like a tier 6 with immeasurable, like Fate Kojiro being immeasurable and 6-B, so the others in their speed tier would just stomp them. Meanwhile, if they fought people outside of their AP tier but in the same speed tier, they'd just one shot. Or, in the case where there is somehow another character with the same speed and AP, they'd likely lose to some bullshit hax because the only other character that they could fight has literally nothing.
 
StekFence said:
Why don’t we just equalize the stands speed instead of the user, since it’s the primary combatant
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Even then, Gojo can't see bro either.

I'm sorry, I was thinking this match would be fun but I should've just asked in jojo thread for opinions
 
ReaperAndBlues said:
Yeah, I was being a bit generous, most matches on the wiki would be impossible.

Not to mention the fact that there are characters who have tiers of speed that don't align with the speed of the others in their AP tier. A lot of tier 1s are immeasurable, so obviously a tier 1 that isn't would get f*cked by most of the others in that tier, i.e Toaru top tiers or Guilty Gear top tiers, both being sub-rel and rel+ respectively. Meanwhile, if they fought people outside of their AP tier but in the same speed tier, they'd just one shot. Or, in the case where there is somehow another character with the same speed and AP, they'd likely lose to some bullshit hax because the only other character that they could fight has literally nothing.
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Yeah basically all fights at a certain point would just end up being speed blitz + dura neg.
Basically just "passives gg" with extra steps. And that's about as entertaining as watch paint dry
 
Being real, this match f*cking sucks. Gojo has literally no wincon, he won't be able to see Tusk, and if he did, he sure as hell is not touching him with that UNGODLY speed difference, let alone perceive him.
 
ReaperAndBlues said:
Being real, this match f*cking sucks. Gojo has literally no wincon, he won't be able to see Tusk, and if he did, he sure as hell is not touching him with that UNGODLY speed difference, let alone perceive him.
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Touching Act 4 is suicide anyway.
Any contact with it transmits all the funny spin hax.

Which is why Plat loses to Act 4.
 
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