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So the non canon Gogeta actually has soul manipulation but this one does not, is there a reason?
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Gogeta's Soul Punisher
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Ya even in non canon Gogeta only erased Janemba who was pure evil while that dude inside Janemba was unharmed
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-The attack's design is literally the same as Toei Gogeta's one.
-Gogeta smiles after Broly resists the attack, because it confirmed to him that Broly was a good guy after all.
The attack was meant to be the same one from M12 and for that I suggest Gogeta gets added to his profile possibly Soul Manipulation. It would be stupid to assume this attack was a simple Ki blast after all, it's clear this was meant to be a SM attack.
Oh, and if this somehow gets accepted I suggest to add a weakness to the attack itself instead of a resistance to Broly.
-Gogeta smiles after Broly resists the attack, because it confirmed to him that Broly was a good guy after all.
The attack was meant to be the same one from M12 and for that I suggest Gogeta gets added to his profile possibly Soul Manipulation. It would be stupid to assume this attack was a simple Ki blast after all, it's clear this was meant to be a SM attack.
Oh, and if this somehow gets accepted I suggest to add a weakness to the attack itself instead of a resistance to Broly.
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Pretty muchSpinoirr said:
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Yeah this seems fine.
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Technically, what Gogeta did in that old movie was Purification, also, nothing of what has shown really suggest that is some kind of Soul Manipulation/Purification.
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I mean, the attack did nothing because the person it was landed to was a pure hearted person.
The attack based on design and Gogeta's smile after seeing Broly was indeed pure hearted strongly suggest it was the same as the one from Movie 12. That attack wasn't meant to be your average Ki Blast else it would have had the average blue blast color ovo.
The attack based on design and Gogeta's smile after seeing Broly was indeed pure hearted strongly suggest it was the same as the one from Movie 12. That attack wasn't meant to be your average Ki Blast else it would have had the average blue blast color ovo.
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"Pure hearted" is such an ambiguos term in DB. Also, don't think that means anything, one can say than that attack was simply more powerful raw power-wise than the average blast (that at the end doesn't matter, cuz people will scale to Broly's durability, and then scale his durability to Gogeta's conventional attacks, and then the final attack will be just as powerful as the average blast).
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I don't think "Pure of Heart" was actually ever actually mentioned? I can't find any Daizenshuu stuff that says you need to be pure of heart to survive it, just that it destroys evil (Hence why that guy Janemba possessed survived even though he's definitely not pure).
So Soul Punisher not instantly lolwrecking Broly means that he's a good person, not that they're Pure of Heart.
So Soul Punisher not instantly lolwrecking Broly means that he's a good person, not that they're Pure of Heart.
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I mean if this is the case then that means Gogeta tried to kill Broly despite knowing he was a good person.
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Do we know that though? All we know was that Broly lost the final confrontation- just because Chilai (The girl, I dunno) feared Broly would die doesn't mean that he would've, especially since she can't sense power levels and ki to determine if Broly would actually die.
We've seen other people get easily overpowered and come out very much harmed but very much not dead (Vegeta, anyone?)
We've seen other people get easily overpowered and come out very much harmed but very much not dead (Vegeta, anyone?)
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Are you talking about a specific Vegeta time or just in general?
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Yeah, that would confirm that "pure of heart" do not really means anything. I'm sure that if that attack have other effect more than causing damage it would have been stated in the novel.
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KKx4 Goku completely overpowering his own Galick Gun 
Yeah, that's the one I was thinking of too but didn't want to assume. I know it overpowered Vegeta and he lived but I feel like there's a way bigger gap between Gogeta and Broly. Do you think he would've survived that Kamehameha?
Yeah, that's the one I was thinking of too but didn't want to assume. I know it overpowered Vegeta and he lived but I feel like there's a way bigger gap between Gogeta and Broly. Do you think he would've survived that Kamehameha?
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Still saying pure of heart cuz Omega mention it; but as I said, if want to confirm than the Soul Punisher does something aside of kaboom, I would recommend checking the novel.
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Yeah, that's the one I was thinking of too but didn't want to assume. I know it overpowered Vegeta and he lived but I feel like there's a way bigger gap between Gogeta and Broly. Do you think he would've survived that Kamehameha?DragonEmperor23 said:KKx4 Goku completely overpowering his own Galick Gun
There's also SS Goku's final attack against Freeza where Freeza's torso is noticeably more damaged but still largely intact despite Goku at that point in time being massively more powerful.
Yes, I think Broly would've survived, although probably hospitalized and even if he was active, much like Vegeta, he would've been far too weak to really do anything against Gogeta.
Plus Goku (And therefore Gogeta) killing an innocent person who's only in a blind rage and unintentionally damaging everything isn't very IC of him at this point in time- biggest example is giving Freeza a 2nd chance despite being Space Hitler or wishing Buu would come back as a kind being despite Buu being the embodiment of Space Genocide. In this case, Gogeta is MASSIVELY stronger than Broly and Broly was completely overpowered in the end so it'd make little sense for Gogeta to try and... kill Broly? Despite a stronger God Bind being a very viable option followed up by KO?
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Honestly it looks like Soul Punisher only kabooms and that's it.
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Fair.Akreious said:
Yeah, I was thinking that it would be very out of character and not needed, it just looked like Gogeta was trying to kill him.
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I mean Gogeta has half vegeta obviously he's not gonna go easy on him. And after using Soul Punisher his facial expression changed in relief as he himself wasn't sure what would have happened.
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Facial expression change = Soul manipulation?
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There's literally nothing implying both attacks do the same. They LOOK the same, but we can say the same about tons of things regarding the Broly movie in general.
