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[DenzOnigiri]

Giant Ganishka AP
Based on this calc, other God Hand member should atleast scales above him. (Country Level) But actually I think there's something wrong with my calc, don't mind telling me.

Griffith Existence Erasure
This one came from the telekinesis feats but I think it's kinda more to Existence Erasure since there's supporting feats to this.
Griffith statement in the manga panel saying "have that existence absorbed by demonkind" should make this more valid.

Fate & Causality Manipulation- Thought Based & Passive via IOE & Possibly Immortality Type 8
Might be abit controversial, but here and here

Thought Based
Via the Idea Of Evil, he can manipulate the flow of cause and effect to any outcome he desires, by meaning Griffith could ask how the result will happen later based on his desire.

Passive
This one actually has been explain in Griffith Respect Thread in VSB...via the Idea of Evil, he can manipulate the flow of cause and effect to any result he desires, which also allows him to manipulate fate itself. His existence and entire life is planned by the Idea of Evil, which makes this ability passive, and makes his opponent unable to hit him, as every attack is fated not to connect

Possibly Immortality Type 8
IOE is part of Griffith, as long as IOE doesn't die, Griffith will continue to live. You can also see in the earlier scan where Griffith's body has been severed and is still alive. Simply put, Griffith is reliant on IOE.

Resistance to Soul Attack & Limited Absorption
Shierke see that Griffith soul is an maelstrom , a force which draws everything around it .

Gravity manipulation
Well, actually this one has been on VSB but it's lack of proof...Griffith manipulates gravity to make a crack on the island. It also shown that he prevent Guts from moving, but it's maybe cause Guts is in shock or because of Casca.

 

[Excellence616]

Giant Ganishka AP
Based on this calc, other God Hand member should atleast scales above him. (Country Level) But actually I think there's something wrong with my calc, don't mind telling me.

Your calc should be evaluated and accepted first before using it in a CRT

 

[ElJoaki5]

Griffith Existence Erasure
This one came from the telekinesis feats but I think it's kinda more to Existence Erasure since there's supporting feats to this.
Griffith statement in the manga panel saying "have that existence absorbed by demonkind" should make this more valid.

I dont think we should use stuff from the anime

Fate & Causality Manipulation- Thought Based & Passive via IOE & Possibly Immortality Type 8
Might be abit controversial, but here and here

Thought Based
Via the Idea Of Evil, he can manipulate the flow of cause and effect to any outcome he desires, by meaning Griffith could ask how the result will happen later based on his desire.

Passive
This one actually has been explain in Griffith Respect Thread in VSB...via the Idea of Evil, he can manipulate the flow of cause and effect to any result he desires, which also allows him to manipulate fate itself. His existence and entire life is planned by the Idea of Evil, which makes this ability passive, and makes his opponent unable to hit him, as every attack is fated not to connect

Isnt this already in his page?

Possibly Immortality Type 8
IOE is part of Griffith, as long as IOE doesn't die, Griffith will continue to live. You can also see in the earlier scan where Griffith's body has been severed and is still alive. Simply put, Griffith is reliant on IOE.

Resistance to Soul Attack & Limited Absorption
Shierke see that Griffith soul is an maelstrom , a force which draws everything around it .

Seems fine i guess

Gravity manipulation
Well, actually this one has been on VSB but it's lack of proof...Griffith manipulates gravity to make a crack on the island. It also shown that he prevent Guts from moving, but it's maybe cause Guts is in shock or because of Casca.

This is an earthquake caused by the wave of darkness that came outta the island.

 

[Thermor]

Your calc should be evaluated and accepted first before using it in a CRT

Agree with this.

 

[ElJoaki5]

We already have a calc for the storm

 

[DenzOnigiri]

Your calc should be evaluated and accepted first before using it in a CRT

yes...im waiting for calc group mmber to respond

 

[DenzOnigiri]

I dont think we should use stuff from the anime
actually why don't? it's a good oppurtunity to try and get better hax.

Isnt this already in his page?
yes, but in the page it's only stating about passive and we r trying to get thought based activation

Seems fine i guess
thx

This is an earthquake caused by the wave of darkness that came outta the island.
alright i guess...but do actually have gravity manipulation for griffith?

 

[Foriaa]

"have that existence absorbed by demonkind" should make this more valid.

Mean's that his existence will literally be absorbed by the vortex of hell, I don't think it's EE

 

[DenzOnigiri]

Mean's that his existence will literally be absorbed by the vortex of hell, I don't think it's EE

hmm make sense...what about the anime feats? it show something that similar to ee.

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

Giant Ganishka AP
Based on this calc, other God Hand member should atleast scales above him. (Country Level) But actually I think there's something wrong with my calc, don't mind telling me.

Yeah no. This calc is wrong on many levels - I left a comment explaining why. Plus, we already have an updated version: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:LegendariumOfLies/Berserk:_Complete_Ganishka_Recalc

I dont think we should use stuff from the anime

Not saying anything, one way or other on existence erasure, but this is a bad argument. We accept the movie as secondary canon, so it can be used

Isnt this already in his page?

Yes: Causality Manipulation & Fate Manipulation (Via the Idea of Evil, he can manipulate the flow of cause and effect to any result he desires, which also allows him to manipulate fate itself. His existence and entire life is planned by the Idea of Evil, which makes this ability passive, and makes his opponent unable to hit him, as every attack is fated not to connect)

Seems fine i guess

Same opinions

This is an earthquake caused by the wave of darkness that came outta the island.

Ditto

 

[Foriaa]

what about the anime feats? it show something that similar to ee.

Is the anime canon to the manga?

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

Is the anime canon to the manga?

We have accepted it as secondary canon for some time now, so yes.

 

[Foriaa]

I see, the video makes it seem like they disappear after being crushed into a tiny ball, what if he just reduced their sizes a lot?

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

I see, the video makes it seem like they disappear after being crushed into a tiny ball, what if he just reduced their sizes a lot?

I don't know. I was planning of Griffith getting EE resistance, but I don't know about having EE. The anime is one to one with what happens in the manga if that is any help.

 

[Foriaa]

Griffith getting EE resistance

From?

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

From?

Lives in the vortex where the statement comes from.

 

[DenzOnigiri]

Lives in the vortex

how so? isnt vortex just a place where its endless swirl of consciousness, doesnt meet any ee thing. but maybe if u tell me more i can help u!

 

[Legion350]

Giant Ganishka AP
Based on this calc, other God Hand member should atleast scales above him. (Country Level) But actually I think there's something wrong with my calc, don't mind telling me.

Griffith Existence Erasure
This one came from the telekinesis feats but I think it's kinda more to Existence Erasure since there's supporting feats to this.
Griffith statement in the manga panel saying "have that existence absorbed by demonkind" should make this more valid.

Fate & Causality Manipulation- Thought Based & Passive via IOE & Possibly Immortality Type 8
Might be abit controversial, but here and here

Thought Based
Via the Idea Of Evil, he can manipulate the flow of cause and effect to any outcome he desires, by meaning Griffith could ask how the result will happen later based on his desire.

Passive
This one actually has been explain in Griffith Respect Thread in VSB...via the Idea of Evil, he can manipulate the flow of cause and effect to any result he desires, which also allows him to manipulate fate itself. His existence and entire life is planned by the Idea of Evil, which makes this ability passive, and makes his opponent unable to hit him, as every attack is fated not to connect

Possibly Immortality Type 8
IOE is part of Griffith, as long as IOE doesn't die, Griffith will continue to live. You can also see in the earlier scan where Griffith's body has been severed and is still alive. Simply put, Griffith is reliant on IOE.

Resistance to Soul Attack & Limited Absorption
Shierke see that Griffith soul is an maelstrom , a force which draws everything around it .

Gravity manipulation
Well, actually this one has been on VSB but it's lack of proof...Griffith manipulates gravity to make a crack on the island. It also shown that he prevent Guts from moving, but it's maybe cause Guts is in shock or because of Casca.

I’m not sure if this is still open, but I agree with adding Type 8. However, I’m against Existence Erasure from this. In the original manga, during this scene where he tries to crush Skull Knight and Guts, the slain Apostles don’t fully disappear, and remain crushed. There is no other indication he erased them from the source material. It’s likely an anime only visual change.

Also, the vortex of souls does not erase existence either. In the scans given by the thread poster, the discussion about having his "existence absorbed" into "nothingness" is talking about the Vortex, but misses context. The souls sent into the Vortex still exist too. Non-sacrificial victims of an Apostle such as Vargas are sent to the Vortex, and including the spirits who dragged Wyald into damnation.

The Vortex is called an ocean of beings. When Wyald fears being killed and tries to take Griffith's behelit, he is scared of being trapped in the Vortex forever, not destroyed. Also, the spirits of the dead that compose the Vortex could still attack Guts. In this context, nothingness is just the total loss of individuality, since these spirits act feral even as they are drawn to the brand.