God Of Water meets Unkillable bastard

[StarSlayer666]

Pontos

VS

Dagoth Ur

Equalized Speed

Dagoth: 1

Pontos: 1

Inconclusive: 1

 

[KongKing23]

Another conjecture that I can make is that Dagoth Ur completed Akulakhan then promptly erased Pontos out of existence.

Otherwise, Pontos lacks the necessary Acausality and Higher dimensional Existence to compete with the Sharmat.

 

[StarSlayer666]

Bump

 

[StarSlayer666]

Bump

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Can Pontos mindhax?

 

[KongKing23]

Can Pontos mindhax?

How can you mindhax a god? What a grand and intoxicating innocence. How could you be so naive?

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Uh... Pontos has mindhaxed other Saint Seiya gods...

 

[KongKing23]

Saint Seiya gods =/= TES gods

Accausality + Higher dimensional existence = Untouchable

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

But... What? Both are acasual and 4-Dimensional.

 

[KongKing23]

Dagoth Ur is Type-4, while Pontos is unspecified in both categories

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Pontos is a 4-Dimensional being

 

[KongKing23]

Dagoth Ur is above 4-D due to the fact that he perceived Time below him. There are still Type-4 accausality and True Godly regen, too much for Pontos to handle.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

He's not above 4-D since that would make him 5-D and thus High 2-A...

 

[KongKing23]

Alright, it still does not change the point that Dagothwave is the superior music.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

"Music"


What the ****? How is singing better going to win a fight?

 

[KongKing23]

It is just the joke. Dagothwave = Dagoth Ur

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Okay


Does Dagoth resist mind control?

 

[KongKing23]

How is that supposed to work on an Accausal being and of course Dagoth Ur has his own mind manipulation too?

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

All Saint Seiya gods are acasual dude


Also Dagoth can't mind control other gods, Pontos can

 

[KongKing23]

Dagoth is solidly type-4 Accausal with True Godly regen.

You have to explain how his mind control works.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Type 4 acausality is the type saint seiya gods have

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Legit talking about music isn't that wrong.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

You mean the "song of creation" shenanigans?


That's just fate manipulation

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

https://www.reddit.com/r/teslore/comments/1oybze/aurbis_the_musical/

 

[StarSlayer666]

Bump.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

I still don't see what Dagoth's answer to the Jedi Mind Tricks is

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

his answer is that there's nothing for Pontos to mind hax

nonexistent physiology and all

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Pontos has nothingness manipulation so it's not an issue

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

that just means he can punch Dagoth

there;s no indication that he can mind hax literally nothing

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

His justification for nonexistent psyiology is weird

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

basically:

His soul is constantly dreaming that he's alive and on Nirn, which makes him appear there. But due to simply being a dream he doesn't actually exist

i think that's it

anyways, Pontos isn't able to incap afaik

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

It's weird but it's indeed what Voryn is.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

That's... not nonexistent psyiolgy.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

It's impressive, but not nonexistent pysiology

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

so you;re saying that something that's created by your dreams actually exists?

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

I mean, in verse it probably does.

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

no?

that's Anu and the Godhead, aka the god-tiers

Dagoth used to be some random schmuck

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

I mean, being made of dreams is more being made of information that being nonexistent

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

oh boy here we go on a conversation about dreams

even if that's the case that just makes thing's worse for Pontos cause now he can't hit Dagoth

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Yes... he can. Pontos can kill abstract beings.