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God of War: Ragnarok Discussion Thread

Why Odin's profiles says Kratos, Atreus and Freya were weakened during their fight? Was it stated somewhere or it's just pure conjecture?
 
I personally tought it started alright but it really dragged longer than it needed. Plus Angrboda's grandma is one of the goofiest boss battles i've ever seen. A lot of things in the Norse saga really felt nothing like God of War.
I'm honestly OK with the Norse saga having its own identity.

But yeah, Gryla was goofy. But she had a fire theme tho.
 
Why Odin's profiles says Kratos, Atreus and Freya were weakened during their fight? Was it stated somewhere or it's just pure conjecture?
Wait, seriously? That shouldn't be there. Neither were terribly exhausted when they finally got up to Odin, hell, Kratos can rejuvenate his stamina with magic, since he can hold back his stamina levels too.
 
Wait, seriously? That shouldn't be there. Neither were terribly exhausted when they finally got up to Odin, hell, Kratos can rejuvenate his stamina with magic, since he can hold back his stamina levels too.
Yeah, it confused me too because they didn't look exhausted and Kratos can regenerate stamina, and has been through far worse.
 
I'm honestly OK with the Norse saga having its own identity.

But yeah, Gryla was goofy. But she had a fire theme tho.
I am fine with a franchise changing some things up. But i am not a fan when it goes too far. A franchise should have a core identity.

If you were to remove Kratos from the Norse Saga you would never recognise it as a God of War game.
 
I recall seeing before some bs for acausality type 4 primordials, if i Don't misremember Something happened to it or saved for another revision
 
Ok, I've thought of a couple of things I wanted to discuss. First, should we really apply the same logic for the souls in the Norse realm to the Greek realm and the Greek Gods? The afterlife for both realms are different, and Freya outright stated that the magic in realms varied.

Secondly, how would the "magic only works in your homeland" apply? What kind of powers did Kratos have in the Greek realm without his weaponry that he doesn't possess now in the Norse realm?

Third, could somebody explain the power-up Kratos got from absorbing the soul of Hades and the other million souls? Were those power-ups permanent? Did they only stay with him as long as he kept the Claws of Hades and was lost after Zeus destroyed nearly all of Kratos' equipment?
 
Ok, I've thought of a couple of things I wanted to discuss. First, should we really apply the same logic for the souls in the Norse realm to the Greek realm and the Greek Gods? The afterlife for both realms are different, and Freya outright stated that the magic in realms varied.
Mimir makes no distinction about the souls. In a situation where a Fae is talking to an Olympian and Jotunn, that'd have been noted if it existed.
Secondly, how would the "magic only works in your homeland" apply? What kind of powers did Kratos have in the Greek realm without his weaponry that he doesn't possess now in the Norse realm?
His divine powers as the god of war. Right now he only has his physical godhood and immortality.
Third, could somebody explain the power-up Kratos got from absorbing the soul of Hades and the other million souls? Were those power-ups permanent? Did they only stay with him as long as he kept the Claws of Hades and was lost after Zeus destroyed nearly all of Kratos' equipment?
They were fully his but he used the Claws to control them. They were gone after he sacrificed himself to release Hope.
 
And what were those powers exactly?
Everything Ares had and then some that he gained in GoW1.

But post GoW2, Titan Power-Ups and Hades' Soul. And then Hermes' Boots and Herc's Nemean Cestuses if separate equipment count that is.

What was gone?
Souls of Hades and all other power ups, Titan Power-Ups and elemental magic Kratos had obtained over his entire journey.
 
Everything Ares had and then some that he gained in GoW1.

But post GoW2, Titan Power-Ups and Hades' Soul. And then Hermes' Boots and Herc's Nemean Cestuses if separate equipment count that is.

Souls of Hades and all other power ups, Titan Power-Ups and elemental magic Kratos had obtained over his entire journey.
So doesn't that mean that his Norse saga self is weaker than his Peak GoW3 Pre-Hope self?
 
So doesn't that mean that his Norse saga self is weaker than his Peak GoW3 Pre-Hope self?
Only thing he retained is his physical strength, speed and durability plus Resistances not involving Hope, as the official blogs and interviews state. But haxwise he's definitely weaker now, and a lot of his innate hax and AD/RE aren't as potent as they were before in GoW3.
 
Only thing he retained is his physical strength, speed and durability, as the official blogs and interviews state. But haxwise he's definitely weaker now, and a lot of his innate hax aren't as potent as they were before in GoW3.
But weren't the souls he absorbed from Hades specifically what increased his physical abilities? If they didn't increase his physical abilities, then what did they do for him? Increase the power of the other magic items?
 
But weren't the souls he absorbed from Hades specifically what increased his physical abilities? If they didn't increase his physical abilities, then what did they do for him? Increase the power of the other magic items?
Both.

That being said, how Kratos retained that level of physical prowess even without the souls to help him anymore is an enigma to most. Maybe just like his father Zeus, he too is built different.
 
Only thing he retained is his physical strength, speed and durability plus Resistances not involving Hope, as the official blogs and interviews state. But haxwise he's definitely weaker now, and a lot of his innate hax and AD/RE aren't as potent as they were before in GoW3.
Can you link the blog?
 
Both.

That being said, how Kratos retained that level of physical prowess even without the souls to help him anymore is an enigma to most. Maybe just like his father, he too is built different.
But wouldn't that still make him weaker? From what I'm hearing, sounds like a majority of the powerups came from deities that originated from his homeland, like the Rage of the Titans, Rage of Gods, Claws of Hades and such. The only reason why Kratos won against Zeus after having all his equipment destroyed is from the Power of Hope. But after he released the Power of Hope, wouldn't he have become significantly weaker once going to the Norse realm without all those amps to call upon? Like, wouldn't it make him equivalent to his God of War 2 self then?
 
But wouldn't that still make him weaker? From what I'm hearing, sounds like a majority of the powerups came from deities that originated from his homeland, like the Rage of the Titans, Rage of Gods, Claws of Hades and such. The only reason why Kratos won against Zeus after having all his equipment destroyed is from the Power of Hope. But after he released the Power of Hope, wouldn't he have become significantly weaker once going to the Norse realm without all those amps to call upon? Like, wouldn't it make him equivalent to his God of War 2 self then?
No? It wouldn't? Hell, the journal entry regarding Thor, the official blogs and the interviews are literally the only things even keeping Norse scaling to Greek Pantheon a thing, and even then the Greeks are deemed to still be superior in terms of sheer hax.
 
Can you link the blog?
Here:

The official Blog Post Guide for GOW2018 states that Kratos is slowly reawakening his dormant powers.

The GoW2018 Comic-Con interview’s snippet also states that Kratos is constantly restraining himself in order to set a better path for his son.

Cory Barlog in a Director’s Commentary also states that Kratos hasn’t had a fight like Baldur in a long time and that he’s shaking off the cobwebs.

The blog for the first boss fight against Baldur also states that Kratos is a little rusty in this fight, which Eric Williams has since confirmed in an interview for GoW Ragnarok.

The GOW2018 Novel (Chapter 48) also states that Kratos was a lot more muscular in his Greek Days.

Kratos states he lost all of his magical powers from Greece after his homeland died (First, when Fear Zeus destroyed all his equipment, drained his powers and then killed him by snapping his neck. And after Kratos came back with Hope, regained his powers back and killed Zeus, Kratos, calling his vengeance to have finally ended, lost them again for the last time when he killed himself by channeling the Power of Hope through the Blade of Olympus and stabbing himself with it, releasing all of his powers and Hope to mankind instead of Athena to prevent the Gods from ever ruining the lives of mankind ever again, and to give mankind a fighting chance for survival).
 
There's also the statement that Thor could take on a Hippocampus (the ones Kratos fought at GoW 3), so both Kratos are relatively in the same ballpark of physical strength.
That too. That statement isn't a cap for Thor's strength tho, it's just supporting stuff.
 
i kinda wish they called hercules Heracles instead. Considering hercules is the Roman version of the name and most of the time fictions that involve Greek mythology call him by his Roman name instead of his Greek name.

it’s getting a bit annoying
 
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