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Giorno vs Monika
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A singularity does not relate to a new space-time at all.
There is currently absolutely no difference between acausality and TPI right now, probably due to Reppuzan's edit of the page to not be a copy of SPW, which ended making the two exactly the same. Back when TPI was created and separated, Acausality was meant for beings transcending causality itself. Which is far different from just resisting causality.
We also rate characters resisting resets (Which is what would be needed to resist GER, given that it's just that, except specialized) TPI, not acausality. GER is resetting someone to a previous state of being. A reset is resetting someone to a previous state of being. Same thing.
There is currently absolutely no difference between acausality and TPI right now, probably due to Reppuzan's edit of the page to not be a copy of SPW, which ended making the two exactly the same. Back when TPI was created and separated, Acausality was meant for beings transcending causality itself. Which is far different from just resisting causality.
We also rate characters resisting resets (Which is what would be needed to resist GER, given that it's just that, except specialized) TPI, not acausality. GER is resetting someone to a previous state of being. A reset is resetting someone to a previous state of being. Same thing.
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Welp,gotta voting Monika FRA i guess.
Also JJ,stop using "man" and "ya",it make people annoyed.
Also JJ,stop using "man" and "ya",it make people annoyed.
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Do ya not pay attention?
>End of the universe. >Initial singularity.[The big bang and a point of spacetime infinitely condensed before expanding and making a new world)] . >New world emerges and a new history.
Within that order. Directly stated. On pabel. Honestly astounded ya debating that when it is actually explained on panel with almost no headcanon man.
Ya say that but the profile itself contradict ya. Tpi and acausuality make a point of differntiating within the explanation. Delete and fuse the two man. Why have a useless profile?
Well ya almost right on that front but ger had far going for him then just that (the multiversal bfr) and a few other feats although . Ya have a link and context on the feat ?.
Ya may take awhile no rush as will be out of it for awhile.
>End of the universe. >Initial singularity.[The big bang and a point of spacetime infinitely condensed before expanding and making a new world)] . >New world emerges and a new history.
Within that order. Directly stated. On pabel. Honestly astounded ya debating that when it is actually explained on panel with almost no headcanon man.
Ya say that but the profile itself contradict ya. Tpi and acausuality make a point of differntiating within the explanation. Delete and fuse the two man. Why have a useless profile?
Well ya almost right on that front but ger had far going for him then just that (the multiversal bfr) and a few other feats although . Ya have a link and context on the feat ?.
Ya may take awhile no rush as will be out of it for awhile.
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Giorno Giovani FRA.
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Doesn't Giorno's death loop only work if GER actually kills the person itself.
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Yes.
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Maybe? (Although did he even murder diavolo?) Jorge on the hand gimped enrico by just moving his arm once although not usable.
Although loop? Why do that when ger would just will power and negate any movement and action?.
Although loop? Why do that when ger would just will power and negate any movement and action?.
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@AN Giorno can kill Monika's body, but her true self doesn't really depend on her body so it shouldn't affect her.
@Jman
With that [] that you added yourself.
I just told you that the description used to say that Acausality is transcending causality itself. It was just changed for no reasons suddenly.
GER never bfr'd anyone without killing them. He never even used this range on anything else than that the death loop.
@Jman
With that [] that you added yourself.
I just told you that the description used to say that Acausality is transcending causality itself. It was just changed for no reasons suddenly.
GER never bfr'd anyone without killing them. He never even used this range on anything else than that the death loop.
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In GER's showing of the reset he didn't kill Diavolo, the hobo did after Giorno punched Diavolo into the stream but in the stand description it says being killed by GER leads to the zero reset so idk.
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Yeah because ya clearly did not the read link. Did ya even do that actually? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initial_singularity hence why.
>No reason. There was a thread for it that lasted awhile. It was made for a reason and accepted. As of now tpi and acausulity different man.
Well excluding the fact he negated erased time and his ability effected diavolo even after he did got bfrd and why bfr only be from him murdering the only thing murdering did was make diavolo go limbo and he then bfrd. The two not mutually exclusive man.
>No reason. There was a thread for it that lasted awhile. It was made for a reason and accepted. As of now tpi and acausulity different man.
Well excluding the fact he negated erased time and his ability effected diavolo even after he did got bfrd and why bfr only be from him murdering the only thing murdering did was make diavolo go limbo and he then bfrd. The two not mutually exclusive man.
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Also link on the monika enduring a true reset man anyway as a delete and reset are different depending on a few various things hence why a link would be nice and a timestamp also.
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Can Giorno resist?
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Anyways, Monika for reasons stated above.
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Even if the MiH literally did create another reality it would be absolute PIS for the cast to "survive" it. It doesn't help Giorno's case here at all.
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Except that she reset to her body, trying to get out but the reset is going in seconds, as seen in Diavolo dying in a car crash instantly after he died from surgery.
There are two ways JoJo expand their Multiverse, first the singularity, second the dimensions. Also parallel universes are called dimensions in JoJo for some reason. They clearly "survived" it, they just rewritten in a way. Like Irene for Jolyne.
There are two ways JoJo expand their Multiverse, first the singularity, second the dimensions. Also parallel universes are called dimensions in JoJo for some reason. They clearly "survived" it, they just rewritten in a way. Like Irene for Jolyne.
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Well that's still PIS. It doesn't give anybody any abilities, nor does it give GER any kind of ability to nullify TPI.
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Tpi and acasuality are explicitly different man. Monika as of making this post lacked any of what endurance would be needed. Reading the profile for the acasuality and tpi made a note of explicitly only tpi making paradox not effective and only paradox.
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monika starts in her non corporeal form, her nncorporeal form works in a way similiar to zero dimensionality, by tecnicly non existing
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im not saying she 0 dimensional (zero, not one)
and zero dimensionality is praticly not having any concept.
and zero dimensionality is praticly not having any concept.
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i used the ability description though, still , i used the exemple for lack of better way to explain, which immortality type 5
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Giorno FRA.
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Monika FRA
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Monika FRA.
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Monika FRA.
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What the current vote now?
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Yeah, going with Monika.
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^^^Veloxt1r0kore said:
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Monika FRA
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I guess Monika win here eh? i count it and its 9 vote for Monika.
Wait,Giorno have 8 vote,so.....incon?
Wait,Giorno have 8 vote,so.....incon?
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