Ghost Rider (Movie) CRT

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Ghost Rider sends a bloke to hell

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Ghost Rider burns some chaps

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Ghost Rider turns a german excavator into a vehicle of destruction

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Blackhart causes a storm

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According to all of these calcs for the movies, Ghost Rider should be at bare minimum 8-C since he scales to all of these guys though the storm feat is probably just ED on Blackhart's part. I have a better idea though since Ghost Rider does that 8-B feat after unlocking Zarathos' latent angelic abilities since he can now produce angelic fire and outright beat Mephisto as well so I suggest him just getting a new key for himself by the end of the second movie. This would of course buff anyone who fought Ghost Rider to at least 8-C as well since I don't think anyone scales to Ghost Rider properly after the second movie.

Also remove Water Manip since that's just Free Movement on water with his bike, just like his Comic Counterpart.

Edit: Correction; He does have an actual fight with the decay guy for a decent bit before yeeting Mephisto to hell so that guy scales to Ghost Rider after Danny gives him his powers back. Mephisto definitely doesn't though since he got bodied by a car crash just prior to being yeeted.

 

[SonicBayo1999]

Seems legit

 

[Homie890]

Blackhart causes a storm

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"I'm not a therapist, but that cloud doesn't seem to unstable"
Lmao
anyways, agreed.
(also the Bagger is german? didn't know)

 

[Lonkitt]

I'd look into getting the Blackheart feat checked out for approval. Ghost Rider could harm Blackheart, so he'd scale to that

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

I'd look into getting the Blackheart feat checked out for approval. Ghost Rider could harm Blackheart, so he'd scale to that

But does that scale to either of their physicals?

 

[Lonkitt]

But does that scale to either of their physicals?

Well, Ghost Rider either attacks Blackheart with his physical blows or with rocks that are specifically enhanced by his flames, plus there's the fact that Ghost Rider was taking hits from Blackheart in the same fight. Also worth noting that the Hellfire Shotgun could destroy Blackheart's entire body (before he regenerated), so he could something like "far higher with Hellfire Shotgun"

As far as the film's shown us and taking into consideration the case-by-case storm feats scaling to physicals stuff we got on the wiki, there's nothing really justifying why the storm Blackheart casually creates shouldn't scale to his physicals

 

[Lonkitt]

Well, Ghost Rider either attacks Blackheart with his physical blows or with rocks that are specifically enhanced by his flames, plus there's the fact that Ghost Rider was taking hits from Blackheart in the same fight. Also worth noting that the Hellfire Shotgun could destroy Blackheart's entire body (before he regenerated), so he could something like "far higher with Hellfire Shotgun"

As far as the film's shown us and taking into consideration the case-by-case storm feats scaling to physicals stuff we got on the wiki, there's nothing really justifying why the storm Blackheart casually creates shouldn't scale to his physicals

Side note. In the second film, Ghost Rider simply getting his powers back causes some clouds in the area to move pretty fast

Although its not as obligatory as Blackheart's storm feat literally having SKULLS in the air, its oddly consistent weather related abilities being linked to these characters

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Side note. In the second film, Ghost Rider simply getting his powers back causes some clouds in the area to move pretty fast

Although its not as obligatory as Blackheart's storm feat literally having SKULLS in the air, its oddly consistent weather related abilities being linked to these characters

I suppose that's fair. Also does that have a calc too?

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Well, Ghost Rider either attacks Blackheart with his physical blows or with rocks that are specifically enhanced by his flames, plus there's the fact that Ghost Rider was taking hits from Blackheart in the same fight. Also worth noting that the Hellfire Shotgun could destroy Blackheart's entire body (before he regenerated), so he could something like "far higher with Hellfire Shotgun"

As far as the film's shown us and taking into consideration the case-by-case storm feats scaling to physicals stuff we got on the wiki, there's nothing really justifying why the storm Blackheart casually creates shouldn't scale to his physicals

Don't forget this is also Blackheart after getting a huge amp, making this more impressive than it already looks.

 

[Lonkitt]

I suppose that's fair. Also does that have a calc too?

It doesn't atm. It might be possible given the sky prior to that was covered in dark clouds and we then see those clouds being moved away. I'm not a calc expert though. At least we got Blackheart's feat

Don't forget this is also Blackheart after getting a huge amp, making this more impressive than it already looks.

This is also true, I forgot to mention that. Yeah, it would speak to how impressive the Hellfire Shotgun's rounds are

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

It doesn't atm. It might be possible given the sky prior to that was covered in dark clouds and we then see those clouds being moved away. I'm not a calc expert though. At least we got Blackheart's feat

Tell Aguy to do it like the others, he's already got most of the calcs done anyways. The only other feat I can think of that's missing a calc is that big ass explosion Johnny made by ramming into a truck in the second movie's final battle/car chase.

This is also true, I forgot to mention that. Yeah, it would speak to how impressive the Hellfire Shotgun's rounds are

Yeah, Johnny's transformed equipment is just busted. Imagine how strong this thing would be in his proposed second key where he's most likely even stronger.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Bump.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

I also propose that we change the name of the profile and any other from the movies to (Columbia Pictures).

 

[Lonkitt]

I also propose that we change the name of the profile and any other from the movies to (Columbia Pictures).

Absolutely

I HATE PAGES BEING CALLED (MOVIE VERSION) OR ([INSERT YEAR] MOVIE)!!!! GRAAAAH!!!!

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Absolutely

I HATE PAGES BEING CALLED (MOVIE VERSION) OR ([INSERT YEAR] MOVIE)!!!! GRAAAAH!!!!

Same honestly.

 

[Electronic74947]

City level ghost rider is real?

 

[Just_Butchering]

Bump

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

City level ghost rider is real?

Small City, but yeah. If that and the other storm-esque feat that still needs a calc gets accepted at least.

 

[Electronic74947]

Small City, but yeah. If that and the other storm-esque feat that still needs a calc gets accepted at least.

I'd say it would just scale to hellfire, nothing really says that it scales to physicals afaik

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

I'd say it would just scale to hellfire, nothing really says that it scales to physicals afaik

But his Hellfire scales to himself since he uses it to transform into Ghost Rider, not to mention he uses it on all his equipment to transform them as well.

 

[Mr._Propeller_Hat]

Glad to see Nicholas Cage's Ghost Rider is getting some representation here.

The storm scaling to physicals should be fine by me, considering his hellfires is amping his equipment and achieving most of his abilities through that

 

[Lonkitt]

I'd say it would just scale to hellfire, nothing really says that it scales to physicals afaik

Ghost Rider absolutely scales to his own Hellfire. Guy's literally covered in it and powered by it

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Also Johnny's intelligence section is.... Very off. I'm not sure what I would change it to but half of it feels more like it's trying to shoddily describe am ability more than smarts.

Edit: Why doesn't Johnny have ESP when he can literally sense sin and evil even from long distances? That's part of his whole spiel in the second movie when he's losing control of Zarathos.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Ghost Rider absolutely scales to his own Hellfire. Guy's literally covered in it and powered by it

Could you help me rewrite his intelligence section to something more palatable since that's your favorite niche?

 

[Lonkitt]

Could you help me rewrite his intelligence section to something more palatable since that's your favorite niche?

Yeah, I can do that. Both for General Intelligence and Combat Intelligence

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Yeah, I can do that. Both for General Intelligence and Combat Intelligence

You're a god send.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Bump.

 

[69Blood69]

Finally a crt on Cage's ghost rider, these movies were really peak

I also wanna point out that he would probably also have like Class 25 LS since he managed to free himself from being crushed by a truck offscreen (2:01 - 2:32), as you can see a small space was made later (3:27)

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Finally a crt on Cage's ghost rider, these movies were really peak

I also wanna point out that he would probably also have like Class 25 LS since he managed to free himself from being crushed by a truck offscreen (2:01 - 2:32), as you can see a small space was made later (3:27)

I don't know if we can count that.

 

[Mr._Propeller_Hat]

Finally a crt on Cage's ghost rider, these movies were really peak

I also wanna point out that he would probably also have like Class 25 LS since he managed to free himself from being crushed by a truck offscreen (2:01 - 2:32), as you can see a small space was made later (3:27)

We don't know how exactly it was done in that specific scene

 

[Lonkitt]

Finally a crt on Cage's ghost rider, these movies were really peak

I also wanna point out that he would probably also have like Class 25 LS since he managed to free himself from being crushed by a truck offscreen (2:01 - 2:32), as you can see a small space was made later (3:27)

I was thinking about that too, but its a tad vague

The feat of him pulling apart someone he burns into stone would get a pretty good yield for LS I reckon

 

[Mr._Propeller_Hat]

I was thinking about that too, but its a tad vague

The feat of him pulling apart someone he burns into stone would get a pretty good yield for LS I reckon

Wait would it? I thought him turning into stone was due to him getting brittle

 

[Lonkitt]

Wait would it? I thought him turning into stone was due to him getting brittle

I had no other way to phrase it imma be real

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

I had no other way to phrase it imma be real

Fair. Also you got an idea on how to re-word Johnny's stuff so I can edit it later? I still need another staff member too.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Bump.

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

Agree. Ghost Rider W

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Bump.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Bump.

 

[69Blood69]

Just rewatched the movie and Blackheart claimed that with the contract of San Vengasas (As Legion) he can take out cities and eventually over the world and it was so powerful that Carter Slade had to hide the contract from the devil. This is probably enough for Legion to be City level

The feat of him pulling apart someone he burns into stone would get a pretty good yield for LS I reckon

He could also easily throw Roarke very high in the sky and slam him through rock

Also Johnny could probably have a key for his human/depowered form since he can knock out a weakened Roarke with a single hit, withstand being thrown pretty far, can overpower and harm Moreau who can easily take out some henchmen, and can survive nasty bike crashes

 

[Lonkitt]

Just rewatched the movie and Blackheart claimed that with the contract of San Vengasas (As Legion) he can take out cities and eventually over the world and it was so powerful that Carter Slade had to hide the contract from the devil. This is probably enough for Legion to be City level

This would also mean the Hellfire Shotgun is 7-B. Makes sense, since Ghost Rider himself would be Low 7-B