Getting rid of Heat Vision

[The_Calaca]

Heat Vision is a redundant and unnecessary page that can be covered by Energy Projection or Heat Manipulation.

This is simple, I think we should delete the page and reword the profiles with it.

 

[Bobsican]

I agree

 

[GojiBoyForever]

Agree.

 

[Antoniofer]

Yeah, me too. Time ago I suggested to replace it by Optic Blast (since you known, we have Breath Attack), but people considered it unnecessary.

 

[Elizhaa]

Basically, what I said before remain the same:

I agree; it is redundant. All that would be needed if the page was deleted are removing the links to other pages and deleted the Heat Vision Users category. It is probably best to handled the deletion discussion in a CRT, though.

 

[The_Calaca]

It's similar, but there's not enough profiles with Heat Vision to provide its own page while we have over 500 Breath users here (lol).

 

[Crazylatin77]

I think it's better to include it in a Optic Blast page rather than deleting it all together

 

[The_Calaca]

That might be an option, actually. Optic Blast is a lot more general than Heat Vision, just like Breath attack so it might work to include more characters that can use their eyes in some form, whether using air to knock their opponents or something like that.

 

[Antoniofer]

If creating Optic Blast its a valid option, then I'll going to post the draft to you can take a look: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Antoniofer/Optic_Blast

 

[The_Calaca]

Could be also limited by the range of the sight.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Agree.

 

[Elizhaa]

Could be also limited by the range of the sight.

Yeah.

 

[Elizhaa]

That might be an option, actually. Optic Blast is a lot more general than Heat Vision, just like Breath attack so it might work to include more characters that can use their eyes in some form, whether using air to knock their opponents or something like that.

I agree.

 

[Antoniofer]

Ok, so I create the power with just everything the draft have plus the new limitation, or any of you whant to do so?

 

[Ogbunabali]

I find it weird that the Optic Blast page doesn't have Superman as a notable user.

 

[Antoniofer]

At that time wasn't sure it was going to be replaced by Heat Vision, so I used other character.

 

[ZackMoon1234]

The Optic Blast page is a good idea

 

[Elizhaa]

Ok, so I create the power with just everything the draft have plus the new limitation, or any of you whant to do so?

I am fine if you create page.

 

[Antoniofer]

Ehm... Change of plans, a blackout just happened, so I can't create/exit pages...

 

[The_Calaca]

Is it temporal? I have no rush. Heat Vision has been a thing for much more time lol.

 

[Antoniofer]

I hope so, my phone doesn't have that much batteries.

 

[The_Calaca]

We can wait. I can't do it right now so if anyone else wants to take the lead without waiting for Fer, it's fine by me.

 

[Antvasima]

Shouldn't we simply redirect the Heat Vision page to Heat Manipulation or Energy Projection instead? That seems easiest, as "Optic Blast" would be just as redundant.

 

[The_Calaca]

Optic Blast seems to cover more than those types. If so, we should get rid of Breath Attack as well since it's basically some kind of power generated from the mouth.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Breath Attack seems sorta redundant as well.

 

[GojiBoyForever]

I dont think so.

 

[GojiBoyForever]

It could be more than energy projection.

 

[Antvasima]

Optic Blast is too unspecific regarding what the blast in question does. It is a mishmash of other powers, and makes about as much sense as "hand blast" for characters who fire beams with their hands instead.

 

[Elizhaa]

Optic Blast is too unspecific regarding what the blast in question does. It is a mishmash of other powers, and makes about as much sense as "hand blast" for characters who fire beams with their hands instead.

It makes sense on this point. So, now I think redirecting to Energy Projection would be the best option.

 

[Antoniofer]

Electricity came back, but I guess I'm no longer need. Does this means that Breath Attack will be deleted?

 

[IvoryAS]

Wouldn't that be making it more vague? It seems like hand blasts usually seem characterized as energy blasts in fiction. I haven't really seen the same for eye beams.

 

[Elizhaa]

Wouldn't that be making it more vague? It seems like hand blasts usually seem characterized as energy blast in fiction. I haven't really seen the same for eye beams.

Not really, it is still Energy Projection

 

[Elizhaa]

I honestly always thought Breath Attack was super redundant already since is literally the Elemental/Energy Attacks that is the main factor not the fact the attack is a breath attack. It might best to handled the discussion in another CRT or if possible this thread too. Also, it might be hard to remove it since there are around 535 pages with the links and the pages here would need changes.

 

[Damage3245]

I don't think Breath Attack is that bad of an ability, even if there is overlap with other pages.

Optic Blasts too would be useful as they convey how a character uses their abilities without needing a long explanation.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Hellfire is also a useless page. It is fire manipulation

 

[GojiBoyForever]

Breath attacks could be more than only energy beams from the mouth.

 

[Antoniofer]

Hellfire its an esoteric ability, so it do not have the same properties of conventional fire or heat. However, I suggested to create the power of Demonic Force Manipulation (opposing Holy Manipulation) that could cover Hellfire or any other infernal/unholy element.

 

[GojiBoyForever]

@Anto

I would be fine with that.

 

[Agnaa]

Agree with removing Heat Vision and redirecting it to Energy Projection.

I agree with removing Breath Attack but I do think it has more reason to stay than Heat Vision/Optic Blast, and the deletion of the two aren't intrinsically tied together.

I'd support a Demonic Force Manipulation page.

 

[GojiBoyForever]

Why are people supporting the deletion of breath attack?