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Piercing Cold was calced at 9-A by one of the earlier repliers
Piercing Cold was calced at 9-A by one of the earlier repliers
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Geralt Magic AP Upgrade
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@Matthew Schroeder
Geralt is a human,he can easily be damaged by swords,he was almost killed by the pitchfork.
He is only wall level in durability (wich is already iffy) unlesse you can prove he is more durable.
Witchers can fight monsters only because of their great speed and reactions.
Geralt is a human,he can easily be damaged by swords,he was almost killed by the pitchfork.
He is only wall level in durability (wich is already iffy) unlesse you can prove he is more durable.
Witchers can fight monsters only because of their great speed and reactions.
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>Geralt is a human,he can easily be damaged by swords,he was almost killed by the pitchfork.
I mean, the same can be said by many other fictional characters. Naruto characters can be damaged by Kunai. Soul Calibur characters don't seem anymore superhuman than Geralt, but they range from Large Building to Island level. Being human and being hurt by normal weapons is a common thing in fiction. There may be other arguments to not count feats, but that is not a good argument. Not to mention being human is by no means an argument as many powerful fictional characters are human. Being human means nothing.
I mean, the same can be said by many other fictional characters. Naruto characters can be damaged by Kunai. Soul Calibur characters don't seem anymore superhuman than Geralt, but they range from Large Building to Island level. Being human and being hurt by normal weapons is a common thing in fiction. There may be other arguments to not count feats, but that is not a good argument. Not to mention being human is by no means an argument as many powerful fictional characters are human. Being human means nothing.
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^The problem with Geralt is that Witchers were never shown or stated to be superior to humans physically(strength wise).
Geralt can easily be beaten by strong enough humans,he just has too much anti feats.
Geralt can easily be beaten by strong enough humans,he just has too much anti feats.
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>Anti Feats
I fear the arguments that will begin because of that term...
I fear the arguments that will begin because of that term...
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Bullet level Whitebeard
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You can joke around as much as you want.But you can not deny that Geralt can easily be killed by humans,wolves and other monsters both in game and in books.He wouldve been dead already if not his speed and reaction.
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Hey man, I'm just using your logic. Hey admins, mind if I make a downgrade for wall level OP top tiers based on this? Let's throw Naruto in the mix too while we're at it. Gonna downgrade a bunch of verses now.
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Low-end showings would be a better term, perhaps?
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At the same time those characters have decent feat that put them at higher levels.
And what does Geralt have?Can you write down all his best durability and AP feats?
And what does Geralt have?Can you write down all his best durability and AP feats?
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Well, downgrade by low ends is a thing here.
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Well, as you said: Only if they have been consistently portrayed as such.
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Well the question is that if he can tank hits from someone with good feats, that's a durability feat.
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Naruto getting stabbed is not a good example to bring on '''any''' scenario even if Geralt being hurt by arrows is a nonsensical argument. It was literally one of the most PIS filled moments on fiction.
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But I never brought up Naruto being stabbed. I said Naruto characters. Never brought up a specific example Kep.Kepekley23 said:
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That was supposed to be directed towards JS lol
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Oof, nvm then. I'll crawl back into my cave then. And wait for Matt and the Anti-Feat war that is soon to come.
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The term "anti feat" makes me think of a feat-hero and a feat-villain.
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"Anti-feat" is a complete oxymoron.
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No it isn't. It means the antithesis to a feat. i.e. if you're saying Gerald is country level, all the times that completely normal peasants 'rmed with pitchforks can actually damage him are anti-feats.
I can't speak for others, but I am not saying "oh he gets damaged by swords and other weapons therefore he can't be country level" because I'm well aware that country level people can wield swords and other weapons.
What I am saying is that he still gets damaged by swords and other weapons of completely normal, non-supernatural, non-superhuman people. So unless it is being argued that the average soldier with a sword is country level in the witcher universe, Geralt being country level is incredible wank.
I can't speak for others, but I am not saying "oh he gets damaged by swords and other weapons therefore he can't be country level" because I'm well aware that country level people can wield swords and other weapons.
What I am saying is that he still gets damaged by swords and other weapons of completely normal, non-supernatural, non-superhuman people. So unless it is being argued that the average soldier with a sword is country level in the witcher universe, Geralt being country level is incredible wank.
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No one was arguing for country level last I checked.
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To be fair, we don't have 10-C dark souls because you can be hurt in ng+ by corpses with sticks. Country level being an outlier is one thing, but a lot of the time unless its shown in story fodder enemies hurting the protag is considered game mechanics. I'm apathetic towards Geralt's status btw.
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Matthew Schroeder said:
Darkanine said:
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I'm seeing a lot of people bringing up Tier 6 feats that Geralt supposedly scales to.Kepekley23 said:
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I strongly doubt that the linked feat is 6-A like Kep said.
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The difference here is that Geralt being hurt by normal people are actually plot-relevant events in the story. They aren't just in gameWokistan said:
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Being plot-relevant doesn't matter. There's a dragon bound by metal chains in a Skyrim quest which is hilariously inconsistent to their power levels elsewhere.
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>Assumes I knew the feat was Tier 6 to begin with.
I quite obviously asked him to calc it and said that he "could" scale to it. I am not here arguing whether it is an outlier. I wanted the feat to be calced buddy.
Also, I ask. How many times during the plot is he hurt by such things? I am talking about non-superhumans btw.
I quite obviously asked him to calc it and said that he "could" scale to it. I am not here arguing whether it is an outlier. I wanted the feat to be calced buddy.
Also, I ask. How many times during the plot is he hurt by such things? I am talking about non-superhumans btw.
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I think this thread derailed a bit, also my notifications broke for this, IDK why.
I feel like anything higher than Tier 8, and you start hitting outlier territory with Geralt. While it's easy to joke that "Under that logic, Goku is bullet level kek", many of the counterexamples provided have a solid bunch of feats to back everything up, and most anti-feats I've seen mentioned here are outright outliers or just gags.
Geralt, even when he is serious, is rather outclassed by many of the stronger mages in Witcher, even so he usually takes them down in unconventional methods if he's aiming to kill them. Lile Monarch said, there is such a large quantity of anti-feats that it becomes shaky to support.
I feel like anything higher than Tier 8, and you start hitting outlier territory with Geralt. While it's easy to joke that "Under that logic, Goku is bullet level kek", many of the counterexamples provided have a solid bunch of feats to back everything up, and most anti-feats I've seen mentioned here are outright outliers or just gags.
Geralt, even when he is serious, is rather outclassed by many of the stronger mages in Witcher, even so he usually takes them down in unconventional methods if he's aiming to kill them. Lile Monarch said, there is such a large quantity of anti-feats that it becomes shaky to support.
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Stop using the terms anti-feat. Use an actual word.
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Examples of incapability?Matthew Schroeder said:
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I prefer the term Low-Ends and High-Ends.
Geralt being stabbed with a pitchfork is a hilarious Low-End. Geralt beating up the Djinn is a High-End.
Geralt being stabbed with a pitchfork is a hilarious Low-End. Geralt beating up the Djinn is a High-End.
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I mean, portrayal of power is also something that needs to be taken into account.
The Dragonborn, as an example you used, is consistently stated to be able to kill Alduin/Dragons, and is constantly referred to as comparable to them, and ends of killing them constantly, so Low-Ends wouldn't need to be taken into account at the scale of people with pitchforks.
Geralt isn't stated to be anywhere near the likes of Djiin and Powerful Wizards. If I recall correctly, there's several statements going over how utterly outclassed he is by them. If anything, him taking them down is either due to low dura on the opponent's end, or is an outlier, IMO.
The Dragonborn, as an example you used, is consistently stated to be able to kill Alduin/Dragons, and is constantly referred to as comparable to them, and ends of killing them constantly, so Low-Ends wouldn't need to be taken into account at the scale of people with pitchforks.
Geralt isn't stated to be anywhere near the likes of Djiin and Powerful Wizards. If I recall correctly, there's several statements going over how utterly outclassed he is by them. If anything, him taking them down is either due to low dura on the opponent's end, or is an outlier, IMO.
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Portrayal of a character is the absolute worst argument you can use for determining their power.
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Please don't be childish. We all know what the term means. There's no need to find another word for it.Matthew Schroeder said:
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It's not being childish. It's that the term is an oxymoron with perfectly existing equivalents for it.
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Might have came off wrong with that... I'm mostly referring to statements as well as how often the feats are preformed. That's true though, and I'm not going to pretend that it supports my argument.The Everlasting said:
