in no point of story have we been said to surpass archons so yeah
Man just because you managed to kick someone doesnt mean you are scaling to their value like you saw nefer kick dottore far away yet he was unharmed and like even at the beggining of the fight when we had 0 amps she did nothing and got bfred instantly
For all i care im forever going to disagree with anyone in nod krai cast bar Moontorre and Columbina one shotting archons till they are said they ACTUALLY surpass that tier
That was not 10 meters vro
Characters who were relative to traveler in past was because he was still fodder, in Natlan he was literally the only one capable of fighting Gosoytoth next to Mavuika, WE WENT WITH ARCHON DIRECTLY (and mavuika still carried)
Then in nod krai we saw what happens when we face someone capable of no diffing us, and not just that but entire cast alongside us
then somehow while knowing its narratively impossible for us to scale to certain character directly nor downscale to their exact value because you guessed it they are completely above us, and using moon marrows to justify downscaling doesnt work because you just hard capped archons for no reason despite knowing you can still upscale their tier because at the end of the day the only one “archon” level was traveler and even with moon marrow in us we were never regarded as someone stronger than archons
Skonfungr isnt safe from this either bcs he stole our powers to become that strong and then got jumped in order to beat him so even THERE we were nowhere scaling directly to archon tier LOL
this chain scaling cope has to stop