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Genshin Impact Discussion Thread

Holy. I was right. I want all of yall to apologize.

"Sin" has tainted the past, and "Fate" rules the future, but his story has yet to reach its end. Rerir's obsession shakes the laws of the world — such is the power of a Sinner.
— "The Visionary" Vedrfolnir
 
Five sinner is a transcendent being that aren't bound by fate, so obviously they won't have it at first place.

Though, having a constellation also aren't necessary to bound by fate in conventional means.
Character like arlechinno, chasca, and skirk (possibly tartaglia too) are some example having constellation but yet not bound by fate. Perhaps due to their connection with abyss
 
Five sinner is a transcendent being that aren't bound by fate, so obviously they won't have it at first place.
I mean it's common sense, and yet this forum seems to argue otherwise. Even tho Vedrfolnir equated transcendence with rising above fate.
Though, having a constellation also aren't necessary to bound by fate in conventional means.
Character like arlechinno, chasca, and skirk (possibly tartaglia too) are some example having constellation but yet not bound by fate. Perhaps due to their connection with abyss
Yeah, I would believe so as well. Outsiders are also said to be beyond the bounds of this world, which is what Skirk is.
 
Yeah, I would believe so as well. Outsiders are also said to be beyond the bounds of this world, which is what Skirk is.
I don't think "outsiders" Are the variable what makes them beyond fate, or else how narwhal a being beyond teyvat literally become catalyst that prophecy fated to fontaine even written in irminsul (narwhal also exist in "world formula" by khaenriah and narzizenkruz as a method to determine nation fate), plus become tartaglia constellation.

Og durin and mini durin (and sigewine as she is technically child of elynas) also technically outlander to teyvat, yet they share fate and constellation.

In otherside the sovereigns dragons who the most native being to teyvat yet aren't bound by fate.

Skirk aren't bound by fate not because she outlander, but surtalogi "free" Her from fate, and using void principle to mimic laws.
 
Are u dead ass arguing that because the NPC doesnt have a playable background he doesnt have cons?.... this has reach extreme lvls of brainrot
isn't protrayed with Cons or stellar fortuna
Transcendence is equated with being beyond fate
Rerir can shaken the laws of teyvat.

What scan do you actually have that they are bound by cons? lol
 
AYYO WE GOT MULTIVERSE LEVEL IN GENSHIN 😭🔥 That's an insane quote from Fischl.


U ALL CALL ME FOOLS, BUT HERE IT IS, 2B DURIN IS REAL
wonderland banner
Wonderland is the witch 5 star?
It literally said she is stronger than her 3rd harbringer rank, this makes her above archon since the top 3 harbringers can rival gods.
Above 3rd Harbinger lvl is also 2nd and 1st ranks which are still archon lvls as seen by Capitano lmao
no harbinger in their base bypass the archon lvl, just Colu/Arle with their moon marrow and Pulonia modificated
you didn't even provide one argument, just an assertion.
I explain countless times why i think Venti outscales moon marrow traveler, there no reason to say it again
I think u still don't get it
Gold is above 10% Sinner, idc if we are talking about Base or Shade Gold, she would still outclass a fellow Sinner with only 10% of his powers, I USED YOUR LOGIC, SINCE ALBEDO NEVER SAYS "MY MASTER HAS INCOMPREHENSIBLE POWERS" THEN SHE ISNT NEAR 10% SINNER LVL, SEE HOW IDIOTIC IT SOUNDS?
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It would be the equivalent of some dude saying "This elephant is so strong (is an adolescent elephant)" but because he hasnt said the same about a fricking Argentinosaurus (Largest animal to ever walk the earth) then Adolescent Elephant >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Argentinosaurus
 
Pre-Moon Marrow Arlecchino kinda above Moon Marrow Traveler, she outperforms him.
SHE DIDNT DO SHI WHAT U TALKING ATP SAHL? KILL 5 WALL LVL ENEMIES????? GOD DAMN TRAVELER WAS PROTECTING COLUMBINA
After Arlecchino gave the moonlight to Columbina, Columbina is stronger than her.
This sounds more idiotic, like low key how u get the conclusion that from "Unquantificable times above 3rd seat" = "Downscaling Rerir's 10%"
 
isn't protrayed with Cons or stellar fortuna
Transcendence is equated with being beyond fate
Rerir can shaken the laws of teyvat.
1 Low key i have to agree with Omni, what is your arg to say the card shit backgroud = having cons?


Allow him to adress some elephant in the room

2 Great BoP
3 The so called "laws shaker" couldn't :
  • Open the portal from which is wife went
  • Is explicitaly stated to not having Spatial Manipulation
  • Needed some burrowed power to just get at the 10% of his strength
  • Bro couldn't overpower the Shadow realm from which he was sent on or neither Nefer's domain, Columbina's Tp ability, Flin's lantern, Albedo's alchemy array
We should just start calling the team "Fraudulent Sinners" or "Gold hand me some feats or im finish"
 
1 Low key i have to agree with Omni, what is your arg to say the card shit backgroud = having cons?

I will concede on that for now.
Allow him to adress some elephant in the room

2 Great BoP
3 The so called "laws shaker" couldn't :
  • Open the portal from which is wife went
In the cutscene, he did open the portal.
  • Is explicitaly stated to not having Spatial Manipulation
That is Varka Speculation. But we don't know if he does or not. Considering he is in Nodkrai in the first place.
  • Needed some burrowed power to just get at the 10% of his strength
He didn't borrow Kuuhvaki like Columbina stole his power to become nearly equal to him. it was stated that when he took the kuuhvaki, his abyssal power was overpowering it.
  • Bro couldn't overpower the Shadow realm from which he was sent on or neither Nefer's domain, Columbina's Tp ability, Flin's lantern, Albedo's alchemy array
1. We don't know if it is a shadow realm or know if it overpowered him.
2. He did overpower it and the fact he could go into someone memory without having the domain of the Power of Time.
3. He was pushed inside it lol by someone nearly equal to him and Dains.
4. what has that to do with shaken the laws of teyvat? 99% sure it isnt even bound by teyvat lol.

The only thing that was from teyvat is nefer domain and even then he is stated to be stronger than Iblis
We should just start calling the team "Fraudulent Sinners" or "Gold hand me some feats or im finish"
says the sovereign stan, out of every character 😭 💔
 
Wonderland is the witch 5 star?
Yeah, I spend 60 euro on the banner... still no 5 star but i got all 4 stars tho.
I think u still don't get it
Gold is above 10% Sinner, idc if we are talking about Base or Shade Gold, she would still outclass a fellow Sinner with only 10% of his powers, I USED YOUR LOGIC, SINCE ALBEDO NEVER SAYS "MY MASTER HAS INCOMPREHENSIBLE POWERS" THEN SHE ISNT NEAR 10% SINNER LVL, SEE HOW IDIOTIC IT SOUNDS?
he barely speaks on Gold tho, everyone that knows Venti in mondstand never compared him on the scale of Rerir. Alice is stated to be near omnipotent yet Venti never stated to be such.
 
Just shaking laws of world isn't impressive for how much they are glazed

According to sumeru wings glider lore, Archons also surpass laws
The Sumeru wings speaks of physical laws not the laws of teyvat. In context it is talking about how windgliders don't follow the physical laws, because it goes against the wind, in context it is just referring to nature.. The same passage mentioned that Venti blessed the Winggliders not archons.

Also in the same lore:
"Okay, alright, I know! The answer was right before me this whole time. Please, I beg you, stop repeating yourself — I know the gods' blessings are also part of this world's rules."
 
This is what you called statement of transcending Fate itself (another good scan for Traveler's Acausality 4)
 
The same Rerir that was told by Nefer
He can't win against Fate btw.

Funny, when Lauma stated Rerir is the biggest crisis this world have experienced, it gets dismissed. This is such a joke. Same argument can applied her, what does she know about Fate or the power of the sinners? She literally said she doesnt even know Rerir 😂
 
Oh my, Nefer can say that after she saw everything that makes Rerir a Sinner and how he will never able to save his fiancee Tholindis. 😂
And? Lauma knows about the battle of descenders history and can see the past. The fact that Nefer didnt see all of Rerir past.

Are you also going to ignore that according to Vedrfolnir, that as long Rerir is alive, so Tholindis will be alive?
 
And? Lauma knows about the battle of descenders history and can see the past. The fact that Nefer didnt see all of Rerir past.
Lmao, so if someone tells a story about the past that means they experienced that past by their own eyes? Thats just ridiculous. The Great War of Vengeance is a common history in Teyvat and almost everyone knows that, they already got mentioned many times not just from Lauma.

She can see the past only by Moon Marrow, that alone is Limited + She's not as great as the Moon Goddess Columbina herself because Columbina revealed more than what Lauma did, basically, Columbina is better.
Are you also going to ignore that according to Vedrfolnir, that as long Rerir is alive, so Tholindis will be alive?
What is that even have to do with him not being able to save her anyway?
 
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The same Rerir that was told by Nefer
He can't win against Fate btw.

yeah genshin destiny has 3 levels, he doesn't have a constellation but he can't deny musica mundana

A similar thing happened to Arlechino, Remus, and Neuvillette.

Remus already had his own destiny system, he didn't use constellations but used Phobos as his and his people's destiny system, but it was all useless because Musica Mundana was superior to it. Neuvillette was the same, he was still part of the destiny plan even though he wasn't tied to a constellation, and he didn't even know that his fight with Narwhal caused Fontaine to sink.
 
Lmao, so if someone tells a story about the past that means they experienced that past by their own eyes? Thats just ridiculous.
same logic 💀nefer doesn't even know the sinner power, they stated it's incompherensible to them lol
The Great War of Vengeance is a common history in Teyvat and almost everyone knows that, they already got mentioned many times not just from Lauma.
the average person in teyvat literally don't even know about this war. It's not as if we even have limited knowledge on this said war 😭 💔 we got like 3 books mentioned ts.
She can saw the past only by Moon Marrow, that alone is Limited + She's not as great as the Moon Goddess Columbina herself because Columbina revealed more than what Lauma did, basically, Columbina is better.

What is that even have to do with him not being able to save her anyway?
Rerir suggest that Vedrfolnir prophecy will come true regarding saving Tholindis in his boss battle: Vedrfolnir... When will it be as you foretold?
 
I am 99% sure. it is in regard that they crossed over from teyvat to this place, which are in fact other worlds, hencewhy it said ''Why are you here?''.
@Sahlwrld Columbina confirms that the place is in another world and Arle also confirms they were crossing over to another world. So the scan can be applied to both since within this context it makes sense. Both could heard the voice speaking to them.
 
@Sahlwrld Columbina confirms that the place is in another world and Arle also confirms they were crossing over to another world. So the scan can be applied to both since within this context it makes sense. Both could heard the voice speaking to them.
"Special space" thats just mean like its in another dimension, hence why Columbina can't sense it because it's seperated from the world. She already said that THAT space can only be access temporarily through some rituals, so that space isn't entirely a whole different world. Like just think of the Plane of Euthymia atp, nobody can sense the true Raiden Shogun in Teyvat.

The scan cannot be applied to both, only traveler.
 
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"Special space" thats just mean like its in another dimension, hence why Columbina can't sense it because it's seperated from the world.
Yeah and this space isn't in teyvat. Arle when summoned the gates speaks of two realms.
The scan cannot be applied to both, only traveler.
yet both crossed from another world, it should apply to both. It makes sense because neither of them should have the access to even cross over that world. both of them could hear the voices. Arle defied the abyss will by sending them to that realm and bringing them out.


If this was solely about Traveler, it would have been specifically stated but since they entered the realm they both transcend fate.
 
yet both crossed from another world, it should apply to both. It makes sense because neither of them should have the access to even cross over that world. both of them could hear the voices. Arle defied the abyss will by sending them to that realm and bringing them out.

If this was solely about Traveler, it would have been specifically stated but since they entered the realm they both transcend fate.
So, buddy, go to another realms like for examples serenetia teapot, plane of euthymia and bunch of other realms doesn't mean you go to a whole different world unless that realm is literally a whole world like Teyvat. And why would they trancends fate just for go to another dimension?

And Columbina alone, nowhere to be said that she ever trancends fate unlike traveler that stated many times.

That special space is still within the Human Realm/Teyvat and its just a temporary space.
 
So, buddy, go to another realms like for examples serenetia teapot, plane of euthymia and bunch of other realms doesn't mean you go to a whole different world unless that realm is literally a whole world like Teyvat. And why would they trancends fate just for go to another dimension?
And haven't the terms realm and world regarding this specific space been intertwined? Arle calls it worlds/realms. The Plane of Euthymia is a mental plane and not an actual reality as with the place of crimson moon and serentia is just a realm within the human realm, it is literally referred as sub-space.

They transcend fate because they entered a realm, they aren't supposed to enter.

And Columbina alone, nowhere to be said that she ever trancends fate unlike traveler that stated many times.
but now she have by crossing from teyvat to the crimson moon place 🤓
That special space is still within the Human Realm/Teyvat and its just a temporary space.
where does it states that?

Edit: Dunno why it shows that link, i wanted to quote something
 
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