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Genshin Impact Discussion Thread

Heres a task for you: instead of pushing whatever bullshit agenda for genshin tiering FIX THE GOD DAMN PROFILES
ITS 5.8 and we got SKIRK LORE SKIRK Feats and EVEN SKIRK BATTLING AND SHE STILL HAS
Lifting Strength: Unknown
WHY IS IT SO HARD TO FIX PROFILES INSTEAD OF DOPING
TO TIERING VERSE HIGH?
 
Heres a task for you: instead of pushing whatever bullshit agenda for genshin tiering FIX THE GOD DAMN PROFILES
ITS 5.8 and we got SKIRK LORE SKIRK Feats and EVEN SKIRK BATTLING AND SHE STILL HAS
Lifting Strength: Unknown
WHY IS IT SO HARD TO FIX PROFILES INSTEAD OF DOPING
TO TIERING VERSE HIGH?
The CRT has not passed yet, maybe i'll do it later
 
Hroptatyr who aligns with Reason (Phanes) and the implications about Sinners being relative to Shades and Heavenly Principles given they're gonna replace them soon like Rhinedottir does to Naberius:
Not really relative by replacement if you need to gain their power to be on their level
 
Heres a task for you: instead of pushing whatever bullshit agenda for genshin tiering FIX THE GOD DAMN PROFILES
ITS 5.8 and we got SKIRK LORE SKIRK Feats and EVEN SKIRK BATTLING AND SHE STILL HAS
Lifting Strength: Unknown
WHY IS IT SO HARD TO FIX PROFILES INSTEAD OF DOPING
TO TIERING VERSE HIGH?
Certain goons who shall not be named are too busy pushing for big rating over getting ratings right
 
Heres a task for you: instead of pushing whatever bullshit agenda for genshin tiering FIX THE GOD DAMN PROFILES
ITS 5.8 and we got SKIRK LORE SKIRK Feats and EVEN SKIRK BATTLING AND SHE STILL HAS
Lifting Strength: Unknown
WHY IS IT SO HARD TO FIX PROFILES INSTEAD OF DOPING
TO TIERING VERSE HIGH?
Because no calc mod the calcs, therefore i have no reason to make a big CRT remaking the entire scaling
 
We are gonna be in 2030 and half this forum wont be able to comprehend that Sinners dont have many feats and barely scale to Shade/Sovereing lvl just because of 2 statments, yet you guys here are claim those fodders to be 1000 times stronger than Phanes, rage bait at its finest
 
Sinners are no comparison for shades. It's important to understand why Rhinedottir was able to fuse with Naberius. It was simply because Rhine found Naberius' heart in a domain.
Furthermore, Gold and Naberius now both lack free will, becoming a kind of multiple selves.
 
We are gonna be in 2030 and half this forum wont be able to comprehend that Sinners dont have many feats and barely scale to Shade/Sovereing lvl just because of 2 statments, yet you guys here are claim those fodders to be 1000 times stronger than Phanes, rage bait at its finest
😂😂😂 bro is ragebaiting so badly, as if rhinedottir alone doesn´t scale above any feat performed by her creation.

And tell me what feats the sovereign have? beside dying and being sealed by archon level characters and overhyping statements.
1. The Geo sovereign is barely stronger than Morax in his prime and was sealed by him.
2. The Hydro sovereign couldn´t even beat narwhal without targetting his weak points (muh he is too big)
3. Pyro sovereign is literally xbalanque victim who lost to Mavuika.
4. Dendro sovereign literally featless.

So much for being comparable to the shades yet are consistently barely above archon.
 
Sinners are no comparison for shades. It's important to understand why Rhinedottir was able to fuse with Naberius. It was simply because Rhine found Naberius' heart in a domain.
Furthermore, Gold and Naberius now both lack free will, becoming a kind of multiple selves.
Surtalogi is stated to be a higher being.
Is stated to achieve higher power (which is always identified with the shades), this power surpass the power of making creation bend to your will and harness the natural energy.
With his own power he can remove the curse of immortalty, the same curse that was established in higher level existence.

He is consistently stated to be on a higher level of existence, how is he not atleast close to a shade level?
 
😂😂😂 bro is ragebaiting so badly, as if rhinedottir alone doesn´t scale above any feat performed by her creation.

And tell me what feats the sovereign have? beside dying and being sealed by archon level characters and overhyping statements.
1. The Geo sovereign is barely stronger than Morax in his prime and was sealed by him.
2. The Hydro sovereign couldn´t even beat narwhal without targetting his weak points (muh he is too big)
3. Pyro sovereign is literally xbalanque victim who lost to Mavuika.
4. Dendro sovereign literally featless.

So much for being comparable to the shades yet are consistently barely above archon.
  • No one of her creation currently are Sovereing, even do i would gadly want to put Durin at Sovereing lvl
  • Archon lvl characters? Here are some feats of them: Creating the sun and 3 moons, Surviving 40 years against the shades and Phanes, Apep was stated to be able to destroy the 7 Nations, alone and in her current authoriless state, fight a planetary narwhal, there probably some insane Xiuhcoatl feat, but i havent study him much ngl

  • We dont have Geo Sovereing, if you scale of theories i can also say stupid things you know?
  • The narwhal was using Primordial Sea Water to enhanced his durability* (By the way this would upscale Neuvi above Surta, because unlike some handsome dragon, Surtalogi was doing animal cruelty and bro didnt have the same dura as against Neuvi goat)
  • Pyro Sovereing is equal to Xbalanque (because both fall death post battle) who is at worst 3 times stronger than Mavuika* (Because he couldnt only use 1/3 of his powers at that point, even inside the realm)
  • Apep directly is the only sovereing that survive the first usurper war and the war of vengance, so yeah, she scales directly to Shades
He is consistently stated to be on a higher level of existence, how is he not atleast close to a shade level?
Because the statment doesnt say higher level of existence, but higher dimensions, which can be translated to "wide gap" just because it says "Dimensions" doesnt automatically mean is talking about spatial dimensions, a dimension can also refear to a measurement
 
😂😂😂 bro is ragebaiting so badly, as if rhinedottir alone doesn´t scale above any feat performed by her creation.

And tell me what feats the sovereign have? beside dying and being sealed by archon level characters and overhyping statements.
1. The Geo sovereign is barely stronger than Morax in his prime and was sealed by him.
2. The Hydro sovereign couldn´t even beat narwhal without targetting his weak points (muh he is too big)
3. Pyro sovereign is literally xbalanque victim who lost to Mavuika.
4. Dendro sovereign literally featless.

So much for being comparable to the shades yet are consistently barely above archon.
I try to take a break from the forum for a bit and we already got some imbeciles talking about Archon lvl Sovereigns huh
 
  • No one of her creation currently are Sovereing, even do i would gadly want to put Durin at Sovereing lvl
Bakunawa would be Sovereign tier because he is lterally corrupting Istaroth and if Dvalin gets confirmed to be the anemo sovereign then Durin would be above him.
  • Archon lvl characters? Here are some feats of them: Creating the sun and 3 moons
Nibelung created the sun and 3 moons, where does it say the 7 did so?
  • Surviving 40 years against the shades and Phanes
This is their only significant feat and even then we don´t even know how they fought agains the shades.
  • , Apep was stated to be able to destroy the 7 Nations, alone and in her current authoriless state, fight a planetary narwhal,
that is barely Shade level btw.
  • We dont have Geo Sovereing, if you scale of theories i can also say stupid things you know?
Except we do. Azhdada is literally confirmed to be the Geo sovereign in chinese language. 被封印的岩龙之王 "Sealed King of Geo Dragons
  • AzThe narwhal was using Primordial Sea Water to enhanced his durability* (By the way this would upscale Neuvi above Surta, because unlike some handsome dragon, Surtalogi was doing animal cruelty and bro didnt have the same dura as against Neuvi goat)
Surtalogi could casually beat up Narwhal into submission without aiming for weak spot, even Skirk is stronger than narwhal and Surtalogi massively scales above Narwhal.
Because the statment doesnt say higher level of existence, but higher dimensions, which can be translated to "wide gap" just because it says "Dimensions" doesnt automatically mean is talking about spatial dimensions, a dimension can also refear to a measurement
The statement of Higher level of existence comes from dainself which claimed the curse was inflicted on a higher level of existence and he could remove the curse by his power which logically proves he shares the same existence as the Shades. I am also not arguing Surtalogi is a higher spatial dimensional being but I´m simply saying that he should be comparable to the shades simply because they are referred as higher Power and higher level of existence because he himself has achieved higher Power. He should scale to the shades solely of these statements.
 
😂😂😂 bro is ragebaiting so badly, as if rhinedottir alone doesn´t scale above any feat performed by her creation.

And tell me what feats the sovereign have? beside dying and being sealed by archon level characters and overhyping statements.
1. The Geo sovereign is barely stronger than Morax in his prime and was sealed by him.
2. The Hydro sovereign couldn´t even beat narwhal without targetting his weak points (muh he is too big)
3. Pyro sovereign is literally xbalanque victim who lost to Mavuika.
4. Dendro sovereign literally featless.

So much for being comparable to the shades yet are consistently barely above archon.
Chat is this bait or /gen?
 
Bum. Azhada who is literally confirmed to be the sealed king of Geo is barely stronger than Morax, which Morax himself states. keep coping
Playing ball with the idea that Azhdaha is the Geo Sovereign that would mean that a Sovereign without their Authority who has also been corroded by the Abyss is still >= an Archon in their prime. That's literally an upscale if anything (and also consistent with the state the Pyro Sovereign was in when he got beat, by an attack to his weak spot might I add)
 
Chat is this bait or /gen?
I´m not srs lol. Neuvilette is literally stated to be rival the entirety of teyvat so obviously he should be above the archons alone. However if we gonna dismiss the sinners as being non-comparable to the shades because they have no feats then i can apply the same with the sovereigns. Surtalogi should be the same tier as the stades due to being described as achieving higher power which is identified with the shades.
 
I´m not srs lol. Neuvilette is literally stated to be rival the entirety of teyvat so obviously he should be above the archons alone. However if we gonna dismiss the sinners as being non-comparable to the shades because they have no feats then i can apply the same with the sovereigns. Surtalogi should be the same tier as the stades due to being described as achieving higher power which is identified with the shades.
The Sovereigns do have feats tho, they literally fought the Shades for 40 years straight lol
 
Archons are never in the same Level with the Sovereigns without any amp/higher power.

When they fought the actual sovereign (like Xbalanque) they always have a lot of advantages. No need 7 sovereigns combined to defeat all archons, even the remaining Dragons of today could defeat the archons.
 
Not really relative by replacement if you need to gain their power to be on their level
Rhinedottir before merging with Naberius is already strong enough to cause Cataclysm, an event in which the 4 Shades directly have to intervene with it being implied Phanes went into a comma cause of this instead of Nibelung with Forbidden Knowledge apparently. Sometimes you guys forget that the entire Cataclysm stuff + Asmoday just shows that they're both the main villain, and main villain are supposed to be OP as hell
 
Archons are never in the same Level with the Sovereigns without any amp/higher power.

When they fought the actual sovereign (like Xbalanque) they always have a lot of advantages. No need 7 sovereigns combined to defeat all archons, even the remaining Dragons of today could defeat the archons.
Yeah because only 2/7 or 3/7 of the original archon exists if Tsaritsa is the original one, the rest are just replacement. They're not even that strong (Awakened Musou Isshin Ei / Mavuika with Ronova's powers) are BELOW full authority sovereigns

Nahida is straight up still suffering to fix whatever King Deshret brought to Sumeru, she's incapable of fighting when you know: She was struggling against Apep, Hydro Archon straight up doesn't exist anymore zzz

Somehow Columbina upscales all these
 
Yeah because only 2/7 or 3/7 of the original archon exists if Tsaritsa is the original one, the rest are just replacement.
She's not the OG we already knew this, the first one was a male with the title "The Belyi Tsar" Means "the White King/Emperor"
 
If this thread https://vsbattles.com/threads/skirk-power-and-abilities-additions.181458/

is done i can apply all of the abilities that is accepted there. however, i can't apply the Lifting Strenght and Stamina.
Her Stamina should atleast be Superhuman, she once stated herself that she don't get tired and don't need rest at all.


Someone like @OmniScalator who previously said like she lifted something that is heavier than the Earth can add something on Skirk's LS in her profile. But of course, we need some CRT for that too.

That thread needs more Staffs to confirmed the things in there, so far, only 2 staffs in there.
 
The statement of Higher level of existence comes from dainself which claimed the curse was inflicted on a higher level of existence and he could remove the curse by his power which logically proves he shares the same existence as the Shades. I am also not arguing Surtalogi is a higher spatial dimensional being but I´m simply saying that he should be comparable to the shades simply because they are referred as higher Power and higher level of existence because he himself has achieved higher Power. He should scale to the shades solely of these statements.
I might agree if it were said that surtalogy is equal to shade, but not stronger. Surtalogy is not even able to escape the fate of the heavenly principle.
 
I think having skirk as disciple being fate of surtalogi may indicate that powers of shades aren't limited to teyvat, as some people speculate
 
Rhinedottir before merging with Naberius is already strong enough to cause Cataclysm, an event in which the 4 Shades directly have to intervene with it being implied Phanes went into a comma cause of this instead of Nibelung with Forbidden Knowledge apparently. Sometimes you guys forget that the entire Cataclysm stuff + Asmoday just shows that they're both the main villain, and main villain are supposed to be OP as hell
This wasn't under her own power though, she was utilising an external power source and creating stuff from it she wasn't "strong" enough to cause the Cataclysm she was resourceful enough in her use of Alchemy with the Abyss.
There's no ground she would scale to any of her creations
 
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