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Not to mention that during around 5.3 livestream Devs said sovereigns are "One of strongest lifeform in teyvat" implying there are other lifeforms on par with them
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Genshin Impact Discussion Thread
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They're not, Neuvillette's struggle with narwhal only because of its size so he hard to find the source of its power. Not about its power.
Thats just mean Surtalogi and Skirk is just slightly above him.
No Phanes is also awaken at that time, its already clear stated by Lumine herself in Bedtime Story.
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The dev mentioned about that single dragon sovereign not the entire, if you read again it doesn't have S in it.
In fact, Tsumi already said that the Seven Sovereigns are the pinnacle of the elemental lifeform
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Well, the one who need to read is you, I have read it multiple times and even translated CN, EN is accurate and Dev's were talking about "TYPE OF LIFEFORM" not a single dragon
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Doesn'r make sense to me, if its easy they wouldn't that take 40 year, 40 winters and 40 summers anyway.
They intend to take over the world from all the dragons so why are they delaying their victory?
No its not only about the shades but that war, he saying that war not the shades so its including the Dragons too.
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So what Elemental Lifeform that can match the Dragon Sovereigns combined anyway? Archons? Nuh uh..
Some of them are not even elemental lifeform anyway
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So we fight just an avatar in the quest, so anyone scaling to Current Traveler stays to planetary lvl (Narwhal, Skofnungr, The 11Th Sovereing Lord, Ineffa and Skirk)
The Bakunawa scaling affects the next characters
The Bakunawa scaling affects the next characters
- Sinners
- Shades
- Sovereings Dragons
- Phanes
- Nibelung
- Little One in the bad ending
- Xbalanque (Possibly)
- Durin (Since they are stated like equals, but Bakunawa is a little stronger)
- Venti (By scaling to Durin and having his own timeline feat)
- Dvalin (Venti's equal)
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Sinners once again proved to be top tier scaling from Bakunawa who couldnt even be soloed by shade powers. @OmniScalator too bad for ya 
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Nah, we are getting Low 2C Neuvi so he oneshots the big 3Best I can give ya is possibly
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he would be tier 2 since he can rival the entire world which includes venti who performed a tier 2 with like 0.000001% of Istaroth.
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Idk what you mean by this, Shades had nothing to do with Bakunawa, if u talk about Venti, he only has a small porcentage off a Shade's Authority and power
Venti and Shade comparasion would be like a Cat in compared to a Lion
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Bro are you fr?Sinners once again proved to be top tier scaling from Bakunawa who couldnt even be soloed by shade powers. @OmniScalator too bad for ya
When tf did shades fought bakunawa? Who even ate part of rhinedottir, tbh imo bakunawa scales higher than even rhine herself
Not to mention a random natlanese hero sealed bakunawa by summoning entire night kingdom inside bakunawa, although it costed him his life, if I remember this correctly
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Low 2C is still tier 2, and should be the best we could get, since affecting a time line is either High 3A or Low 2C, anyways Venti strongest archon i been saying this for ages and no one believe me
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Nah, Durability negation for Bakunawa and Regen for Gold
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Nah, if we notice, albedo mentioned that before eating heart of naberius Gold was going insane, and eating heart of naberius stablised her, meaning even she is affected by the corruption of bakunawa
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Bro are you fr? how does biting someone prove it is stronger LMAOOOOOO. Venti literally had to use shades power to remove Bakunawa out of the timeline
shades aint doing shit
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But not like he used the 100% of Istaroth powers, because he doesnt have it, lets just say he has around 1 and 5 % of her powershow does biting someone prove it is stronger LMAOOOOOO. Venti literally had to use shades power to remove Bakunawa out of the timeline
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Prove she was corrupted by Bakunawa? cuz that is nowhere stated
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Well, it was the only corruption she was exposed to, as far as we know
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Bakunawa corruption is related to time itself, causing calamity that exist at every moments. So this doesn´t confirm anything.
Plus we know that Surtalogi is 1000x stronger than Bakunawa as he scales 1000x times above all of teyvat.
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I will wait out on this fraudtalogi one, let hoyo themselves crush him
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No, he could be oneshotted by Amber
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I don´t think Xbalanque would scale. Venti wouldn´t scale to Bakunawa but he has the tier 2 feat but he is defintely not capable of stalemating it or defeating it. Bakunawa timefeat is far greater than Venti one.
What is the reason for the sovereigns scaling tho? not that i disagree.
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You mean nibelung gettng oneshotted by Xinyan
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I would say that Bakunawa would be 2-C to 2-B and Venti Low 2-C.
Those who scales to Bakunawa would be obviously the shades, phanes, the sovereigns (they fought the shades) and the sinners because pre Shade Rhinedottir is the creator of Bakunawa and scale above her creations and Surtalogi because he scales 1000 times above all of teyvat including Bakunawa and is said that his strength comparison with others is incalculable. I can´t wait to see rerir feats.
Those who scale to Venti would be durin and dvalin.
Those who scales to Bakunawa would be obviously the shades, phanes, the sovereigns (they fought the shades) and the sinners because pre Shade Rhinedottir is the creator of Bakunawa and scale above her creations and Surtalogi because he scales 1000 times above all of teyvat including Bakunawa and is said that his strength comparison with others is incalculable. I can´t wait to see rerir feats.
Those who scale to Venti would be durin and dvalin.
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You guys just wait for outer+ EoS raiden 
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Nah, Dragons have feats unlike some Khaenriah dude that was friend with Dain
Gennually from where you took this?
Bakunawa's feat is Low 2C
- Destruction, creation or affecting 1 timeline alone is stated to be Low 2C
- "Significantly affect" is here used as an umbrella term for feats that don't involve direct creation or destruction but are comparable to them in power, such as warping and distorting the entirety of the structure in question, sustaining its existence with energy, merging the structure with another one, etc.
- Bakunawa's power distorted the timeline
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I did
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Raiden when god damn Venti just cut her in 10000000 pieces
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And so does Surtalogi like what is your point? his feats is above Skirk, Narhwal etc. Skirk herself is above neuvilette who is a sovereign.
It´s from Skirk character story 5.
But Bakunawa wasn´t just affecting 1 timeline, isn´t he? Venti indicated multiple timelines were affected since he corrupted all time itself and venti doesn´t even scale to bakunawa since he removed the island that contained a fraction of bakuwana out of the timeline
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raiden is likely ineffa victim lol.You guys just wait for outer+ EoS raiden
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Planet lvl Narwhal and Skirk scales nowhere near Surtalogi, now are we gonna say that Skirk is superior to Surtalogi?
Quote?
Venti threw him to another timeline because he knew his powers werent able to reach multiple timelines, so that just confirms he is nowhere near 2C, which as a base you need to affect, destroy or create 2 timelines and Venti kinda downscales Bunkanawa, like
Bunkanawa >= Durin >= Venti = Dvalin
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Why no wanking work on the verse 
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They are planetary if you believe a singular sovereign is planet level since they scale above neuvilette who has the whole power of a sovereign.
"Master, since you mentioned that your group once divided enough Abyssal power amongst yourselves to overturn an entire world — or at least a sixth of it..."
"How is it that you are now many times stronger than an entire world, even when alone?"
"Did I save an idiot back then?"
"Listen well. When the fruit of a tree dies, its seeds are sown in the rotten soil. Naturally, these seeds may grow into stronger trees that bear harvests a hundred, or even a thousand times richer."
and the version he threw was just a tiny fraction of bakunawa not even his full version as stated in the world quest and yet we still can´t deny it was corrupting time at every moments. He was affecting more than one timeline thus he would be 2-c or above. Also where do you get that Durin and bakunawa are comparable? cuz if anything he is literally more transcendent than any other creature of rhinedottir.
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what kind of brainrot im witnessing right now bro, what 2-C 2- what the hell is happening
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Im currently working on my own wiki, to much work
Narwhal aint superior to Neuvi huh?
This is a flowery language, explaining to Skirk that even do he had 1/6 power to overthrown a planet when he just gained the Abyssal Power, he became stronger over time
No, he didnt threw a fraction of Bakunawa, we just fought his avatar in a incomplete Mare Jivari, the real monster with all powers is somewhere in the real Mare Jivari
Yeah he is called stronger but also in the Festering Feast quest, it is stated that both monster vitality are equal (vitality is a synonym to raw power in some of Gold Creations such as Durin), so even if Bakunawa is stronger is not by a large marge
Nuh uh Durin 6.1
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Not Superior but slightly stronger in terms of strength but Skirk is like superior to Neuvilette since Narhwal is just a training dummy to her. If you believe sovereigns are low 2-C for scaling to Baku then so would skirk and narwhal be.
It is not a flowery language but a comparison since he compared his strength with riches of a seed. Skirk herself said everything what Surtalogi says is at face value. plus it doesn´t say he became stronger, Skirk clarified he became many times stronger than all of Teyvat, which only makes sense howmany times he is stronger than teyvat when you use the riches of seed analogy to his strength.
Okay that is fair enough, but Bakunawa would still scale above Venti even if they are in the same tier.
I see. Can you remind me where Vitality was equated to raw power.
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Artifact Story Brief Conclusion:
The "evil monk" Laus accidentally glimpse a mirror from the Crimson Moon Dynasty, and it shows the real universe outside Teyvat.
For this, he swore that one day he will enter the Dark Paradise.
Because he touched the forbidden knowledge, he was banished to the surface.
Yet, he was not transformed into a Hilichurl, but chosen by "the great existence of the Dome" to be granted the grace of darkness.
Years later, he wandered through all nations but gained nothing.
After entering the palace of the White Tsar and earning his trust,
he was ordered to develop the land of Nod-Krai, where he finally discovered a gate towards the Dark Paradise.
Source via Datamined, FireflyLeaks
The "evil monk" Laus accidentally glimpse a mirror from the Crimson Moon Dynasty, and it shows the real universe outside Teyvat.
For this, he swore that one day he will enter the Dark Paradise.
Because he touched the forbidden knowledge, he was banished to the surface.
Yet, he was not transformed into a Hilichurl, but chosen by "the great existence of the Dome" to be granted the grace of darkness.
Years later, he wandered through all nations but gained nothing.
After entering the palace of the White Tsar and earning his trust,
he was ordered to develop the land of Nod-Krai, where he finally discovered a gate towards the Dark Paradise.
Source via Datamined, FireflyLeaks
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