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Genshin Impact Discussion Thread

There has been some dude in a CRT saying that Fatui Agents and Tartaglia (Liyue Arc) should scale of the same thing
 
There has been some dude in a CRT saying that Fatui Agents and Tartaglia (Liyue Arc) should scale of the same thing
Real Durin is dead, Simulanka Durin that manifested in Teyvat comes from a Tier 11 source hence Durin is Tier 11 and shouldn't be scaled to his actual one in Teyvat

I'm making a CRT about this bro if there's ever a Durin profile, atleast before Albedo did some transmutation whatever the hell it is on Durin
 
Real Durin is dead, Simulanka Durin that manifested in Teyvat comes from a Tier 11 source hence Durin is Tier 11 and shouldn't be scaled to his actual one in Teyvat

I'm making a CRT about this bro if there's ever a Durin profile, atleast before Albedo did some transmutation whatever the hell it is on Durin
Durin from Simulanka ain't no Tier 11 no more since he went to Teyvat which is the real world. Durin is like transcending or existing above the world of simulanka which is Teyvat, thus ascending to a higher level of existence, allowing him to reside in Teyvat, as his existence is now equal to that of Teyvat.
Like 2-D → 3-D
hence why Paimon said like "Aren't you already REAL after coming out of that book"


Mini Durin NOW is essentially fused with the dragonspine Durin and Mini Durin. In fact, Albedo needs materials of his siblings to give Mini Durin's Human Form.
Like he need Bakunawa's flesh that makes Durin is Immortal and Dragonspine Durin's heart.
 
Regarding will the current Durin scales to the Durin in Dragonspine, well, keep playing to find out.
 
Durin from Simulanka ain't no Tier 11 no more since he went to Teyvat which is the real world. Durin is like transcending or existing above the world of simulanka which is Teyvat, thus ascending to a higher level of existence, allowing him to reside in Teyvat, as his existence is now equal to that of Teyvat.
Like 2-D → 3-D
hence why Paimon said like "Aren't you already REAL after coming out of that book"


Mini Durin NOW is essentially fused with the dragonspine Durin and Mini Durin. In fact, Albedo needs materials of his siblings to give Mini Durin's Human Form.
Like he need Bakunawa's flesh that makes Durin is Immortal and Dragonspine Durin's heart.

Before Albedo does the transmutation thingy, the one I meant obviously refers to the Simulanka Durin wym (I mean wasn't it Albedo too or whoever Hexenzirkel was it that allows Durin to somehow not be Tier 11 again)
 
Before Albedo does the transmutation thingy, the one I meant obviously refers to the Simulanka Durin wym (I mean wasn't it Albedo too or whoever Hexenzirkel was it that allows Durin to somehow not be Tier 11 again)
Yeah.. Simulanka Durin is already a 3-D being since he got out from that Book, thats why Paimon said "Aren't you already REAL since coming out of that book?" to Mini Durin before got transmuted
 
Yeah.. Simulanka Durin is already a 3-D being since he got out from that Book, thats why Paimon said "Aren't you already REAL since coming out of that book?" to Mini Durin before got transmuted
Which is through the same 3-D being empowering it for a limited time, I said there's a limited time cause there's a reason why Albedo has to transmutate Durin and went through the entire Hexenzirkel process as to make him able to reside in Teyvat which technically breaks the Heavenly Principles's law but who cares man

So yeah either way the Durin we fought inside Simulanka is the Tier 11 one, in which there should be 2 separate keys, one being the Simulanka and the other being Teyvat
 
Durin in the simulanka is indeed 11c, but when he received a blessing from the traveler, he transcended or was above the simulanka world, thus experiencing an increase in existence from initially a 2D fairy tale creature to a real 3D creature. That's why he was able to leave the simulanka and become a Teyvat creature. After that, Albedo performed a transmutation on Durin, changing his form into a half-dragon human.
 
same book alongside IT wanked genshin to 4-A btw (same persons who said this btw too)
Actually, I still believe there is a 50/50 possibility that it is the real world, simulanka and IT are explained to have their own time flow and are different from Teyvat.

LUNAR ARCANUM I
Resolve flows like fragrant tea,
Reality shaped by whim and leisure.
A cup, a pen, a knife, and a plate of desserts,
A small, secret rite, a harmony of four humors,
The bustle of an afternoon that stirs fond memories.

You claim that all resides in you,
Yet, in the end,
That fleeting moment of laughter and "magic,"
Is naught but a speck of light,
Formed in the boundless void.
Explaining that what the Witch created is reality

I'm just waiting for something clearer and following what's being discussed now
 
Oh yeah, I think, from Durin case, it's actually been proven that transcendent of the world is a terminology to explain the increase in superiority of existence. For example, Durin is 2D being in simulanka become 3D because he transcend that world and are above it.
 
It's not deleted, i removed Fatui Skirmisher upscale and it's now under moderator's revision so it's not visible. Also I provided proofs why Fatui Agents should scale to 7-C, Puppet43 probably thought by mistake I think they're completely equal to Childe.
Why do you think they scale to 7-C?
 
7C is Childe scale you litterally saying a Fatui Agent could probably beat up Childe
2+2 = 4 ahh statment
No. As it says here even if there is a clear power gap between two characters, it typically cannot be a big enough gap that they're tiers apart if they can have an actual fight with someone. If character A is stronger than character B and Character B is stronger than Character C and both B and C put up a fight, that doesn't make Character A equal to Character C, but the same tier. And Childe skills and abilities are on another level as stated in his profile. If Fatui Agent was 8-C, that'd mean he cannot even harm Liyue Childe and Traveler in their sleep which is not the case at all
 
i mean you can steal upscale and downscale them with “at most” and “at least”
Woomy, if they were around Liyue Tartaglia lvl wouldnt one of them at least get promoted to a Harbinger rank if the gap was that small? (more convincing is this argument when you take into account the fact that Tsarita has lost like half of his strongests members)
 
No. As it says here even if there is a clear power gap between two characters, it typically cannot be a big enough gap that they're tiers apart if they can have an actual fight with someone. If character A is stronger than character B and Character B is stronger than Character C and both B and C put up a fight, that doesn't make Character A equal to Character C, but the same tier. And Childe skills and abilities are on another level as stated in his profile. If Fatui Agent was 8-C, that'd mean he cannot even harm Liyue Childe and Traveler in their sleep which is not the case at all
Or perhaps is the fact that Traveler didn't have any intentions of killing bro, why would him throw Town lvl attacks on lesser humans knowing that with less energy he can knock them down, and the example you gave is horrible:
  • The VSwiki says that if Character B even do weaker than Character A should be relative to his AP (City lvl) but what you dont take into account is the energy. Maybe Character B is 17 Megatons and Character A is 50 Megatons, one is clearly stronger but still with enough punches and strategy could hurt and even compare to character A
  • In your scaling, Childe and Fatui nº233231414 scale to the same number 15.14 Kilotons, therefore both should be able to harm and win against the other, abilities aside , this is like saying Jogo could win against Gojo because he didn't die in the 1st Season lol
By the way that'd mean he cannot even harm Liyue Childe and Traveler in their sleep which is not the case at all thats entirely the case, otherwise show me one scene of Traveler being harmed by a Fatui Agent, not the enemy surviving but him harming le bro
Childe and Liyue Traveler upscaled to "at least"?
Why bro lying?
 
Woomy, if they were around Liyue Tartaglia lvl wouldnt one of them at least get promoted to a Harbinger rank if the gap was that small? (more convincing is this argument when you take into account the fact that Tsarita has lost like half of his strongests members)
Did you forget that there are fatui members who are far more advanced than regular fatui agent?
I mean fatui harbinger isnt abt power, its abt Status too
Realistically childe is literally no 6-5. in terms of power yet is 11th, plus he grew far stronger now thab before so even if u put childe in 7-C in liyue, literally inazuma childe onwards out scales
Childe and Liyue Traveler upscaled to "at least"?
yes
 
Did you forget that there are fatui members who are far more advanced than regular fatui agent?
I mean fatui harbinger isnt abt power, its abt Status too
All points given until now litterally go for strength
  • Scara calling Tartaglia a weakling
  • Signora saying shi about Liyue Traveler knowing he can do anything to her (he was equal to Tartaglia)
  • Signora calling Scara just 6th because of his durability
  • Paimon calling Dottore being just 2nd because of his combat abilities
  • Capitano being capable of fighting archons
  • Nahida saying only top 3 are god lvl
  • Scara being described as "Being able to surpass low ranking harbingers" just when he got stronger by his seal getting destroyed

If it was status Pantalone and Pulcinella should be higher since one is the major of Snezhnaya and the other is litterally the richest man alive

Realistically childe is literally no 6-5. in terms of power yet is 11th, plus he grew far stronger now thab before so even if u put childe in 7-C in liyue, literally inazuma childe onwards out scales
Childe and Pulonia are the only real outlier in the entire harbinger cast, all the rest still as strong as they are pressented
  • One because wants to get strong
  • The other got an update to deal with 10% Rerir (ended badly)
 
Or perhaps is the fact that Traveler didn't have any intentions of killing bro, why would him throw Town lvl attacks on lesser humans knowing that with less energy he can knock them down, and the example you gave is horrible:
  • The VSwiki says that if Character B even do weaker than Character A should be relative to his AP (City lvl) but what you dont take into account is the energy. Maybe Character B is 17 Megatons and Character A is 50 Megatons, one is clearly stronger but still with enough punches and strategy could hurt and even compare to character A
  • In your scaling, Childe and Fatui nº233231414 scale to the same number 15.14 Kilotons, therefore both should be able to harm and win against the other, abilities aside , this is like saying Jogo could win against Gojo because he didn't die in the 1st Season lol

Why bro lying?
Or perhaps is the fact that Traveler didn't have any intentions of killing bro, why would him throw Town lvl attacks on lesser humans knowing that with less energy he can knock them down, and the example you gave is horrible
That's completely made up.
In your scaling, Childe and Fatui nº233231414 scale to the same number 15.14 Kilotons
Attack Potency: Since Liyue Traveler is scaled to this feat, which required 15.14 Kilotons of TNT, Fatui Agents should be scaled to 7-C. They scaled to the tier of the Liyue Traveler, it doesn't mean at all they have the exact number. Calling Elite Fatui enemies "Fatui nº233231414" is another example of bias.
Childe and Liyue Traveler upscaled to "at least"?
"Should be upscaled?" if you missed the context. There's a question mark there. To falsely call another a liar is to lie.
 
That's completely made up.
Sure, burden of proof
- Attack Potency: Since Liyue Traveler is scaled to this feat, which required 15.14 Kilotons of TNT,
- it doesn't mean at all they have the exact number
Lmao good contradiction
Calling Elite Fatui enemies "Fatui nº233231414" is another example of bias.
Exaggeration: is the representation of something as more extreme or dramatic than it is, intentionally or unintentionally
"Should be upscaled?" if you missed the context.
You didnt say "Should be upscaled" you said "Childe and Liyue Traveler upscaled to "at least"?"
Your either asking if they scaled to At least or stating that both are currently At Least
To falsely call another a liar is to lie.
 
Abyss mimics are stronger than original things
so Pyro dragon mimic by gosoytoth is stronger than original pyro dragon
Can't even mimic the full size of Xiuhcoatl, Can't even use the OG voice of Xiuhcoatl,
Can't even use all of the abilities of him and saying that thing is stronger 🥀
 
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Can't even mimic the full size of Xiuhcoatl, Can't even use the OG voice of Xiuhcoatl,
Can't even use all of the abilities of him and saying that thing is stronger 🥀

Why would abyss do useless things like those?

Power is the only useful aspect
 
Why would abyss do useless things like those?
Power is the only useful aspect
Useless? Hello? Those things are not useless for someone like Dragon Sovereigns. They are relying on their size and their abilities.

That thing can't even mimic the entire size of Xiuhcoatl proving it that it cannot mimic 100% of what they are.
 
Didn't we fight like the Abyss Xiuhcoatl without Ronova's amplification at all cause I only remember that being used against Gosoysoth, Abyss Xiuhcoatl losing to Thousand Blazing Suns that has zero correlations with the Shades is insane bro
 
Didn't we fight like the Abyss Xiuhcoatl without Ronova's amplification at all cause I only remember that being used against Gosoysoth, Abyss Xiuhcoatl losing to Thousand Blazing Suns that has zero correlations with the Shades is insane bro
That abyss xiuhcoatl IS gosoythoth.

That claymore ain't no amping them nor does it have connection to Ronova. they got ronova's power by that 6 totems of obsidian that represent each tribes and heroes so they can use Ronova's power again.
 
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