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Genshin Impact Discussion Thread

GarrixianXD said:
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Skirk

Skirk is a mysterious swordswoman who is said to reside in another realm, the dark realm, which is located in the darkest corners of the Universe. She is also the master of Tartaglia, who trained him in the abyss since he was 14-years-old. Tier: At least 4-A, likely far higher Name: Skirk...
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It was stated that the appearance of the All-Devouring Narwhall was only a short private training session with Skirk;
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This isn't correct her training session wasn't with and is independent of the Narwhal, Skirk says that Childe was fighting it in the meantime of her training. Meaning her training was taking place while Childe was fighting the whale.

Implied to be superior Fontaine Aether and Neuvillette as the All-Devouring Narwhall was a mere training session for her
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That applies to the above speed justification too, it would be more appropriate to place her above Foul Legacy Childe and Base Hydro Traveler simply.
it took the full powers of Fontaine Aether, Neuvillette and Foul Legacy Tartaglia to tediously defeat the entity. Logically, it should place Skirk superior to all three of them.
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Is this putting her above Post-Authority Neuvillette ? Using the term tedious only really applies to Childe since neither Aether or Neuvillette had a drawn out battle with it and once Neuv gained his Authority he states his power is sufficient to kill it but its root still needed to be taken out internally. Skirks power from beyond the world heavily suggest its more convenient to decommission the whale with which is why she sees them deemed as fit to talk to her as equals.
Her AP justifications are just weird, Neuvillette was shocked because of the alien nature of them and the power is from beyond not that the power is beyond teyvat but that's just nitpicking ig?

All in All I think it's more feasible to Scale her solidly above Childe and the Hydro Traveler, These require a CRT right....?

Also why is Arlecchino's profile so barebones?
 
Shey said:
This isn't correct her training session wasn't with and is independent of the Narwhal, Skirk says that Childe was fighting it in the meantime of her training. Meaning her training was taking place while Childe was fighting the whale.


That applies to the above speed justification too, it would be more appropriate to place her above Foul Legacy Childe and Base Hydro Traveler simply.

Is this putting her above Post-Authority Neuvillette ? Using the term tedious only really applies to Childe since neither Aether or Neuvillette had a drawn out battle with it and once Neuv gained his Authority he states his power is sufficient to kill it but its root still needed to be taken out internally. Skirks power from beyond the world heavily suggest its more convenient to decommission the whale with which is why she sees them deemed as fit to talk to her as equals.
Her AP justifications are just weird, Neuvillette was shocked because of the alien nature of them and the power is from beyond not that the power is beyond teyvat but that's just nitpicking ig?
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nah she is only 6C not 6C+ the far higher most likely comes from being able to use powers such as foul legacy which boosts your stats and other abyssal powers
Shey said:
All in All I think it's more feasible to Scale her solidly above Childe and the Hydro Traveler, These require a CRT right....?

Also why is Arlecchino's profile so barebones?
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alrechinno is getting a profile update soon dont worry
 
Feel free to edit the justification of the profiles. I can’t assure everything is accurate. I placed Skirk above Neuvillette because she casually morphed the whale, contrasted to Neuvillette needed to exert all his strength. Also, character profile creations aren’t needed for CRTs, as long as it’s not Low 1-A and above. Just be sure not to remove any stats and abilities.
 
Since Lyney, Lynette and Freminet able to fight Arlecchino alongside Traveler until she transform, shouldn't that make this three 6-C?
 
V999 said:
Since Lyney, Lynette and Freminet able to fight Arlecchino alongside Traveler until she transform, shouldn't that make this three 6-C?
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Imagine Arlecchino going even one percent of power against her children, quite the unlikely.
 
V999 said:
Since Lyney, Lynette and Freminet able to fight Arlecchino alongside Traveler until she transform, shouldn't that make this three 6-C?
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Lyney says she was holding back on them and even then that they were no match for her so they definitely wouldn't scale. I also dont think they'd scale to the Traveler either since he was clearly the strongest there aside from Arle
 
V999 said:
Since Lyney, Lynette and Freminet able to fight Arlecchino alongside Traveler until she transform, shouldn't that make this three 6-C?
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At most or possibly since arle was holding back so much. Even traveler who is 6C was gettting beaten up badly
 
GarrixianXD said:
I placed Skirk above Neuvillette because she casually morphed the whale, contrasted to Neuvillette needed to exert all his strength.
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What she casually morphed was an incapacitated whale who had been weakened and beat up by Neuv's power and separation from the Primordial Sea. There's also no statement implicitly or explicitly about needing to exert all his strength

That doesn't scale her above Neuvillette especially when the strange nature of her abilities simply just allow her to cover the whale in energy and shrink it.
Which is exactly why she instantly identifies Neuv and Traveler as strong because they didn't need "Power from beyond this world" to defeat and kill it

Quoting from the Travel Log
"At this time, another strange energy shrouds the creature and shrinks it until it falls into the palm of a mysterious woman's hand."

This is just not an AP thing, this is Size Manipulation and sealing within the "Strange Substance" the implied Black Hole like material
 
Can someone explain the Sub Rel calc to me?
Where's the lightning value from
 
Giannysmag said:
Idk man I'm currently making a thread to remove it. The calc and the entire scaling is ass
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The big confusion comes bcs two of the biggest speed feats come from same act in span of 5 minutes
Tho as long it doesnt make the scaling super inconsistent and the op can actually argue it properly i dont mind it
 
Woomica said:
The big confusion comes bcs two of the biggest speed feats come from same act in span of 5 minutes
Tho as long it doesnt make the scaling super inconsistent and the op can actually argue it properly i dont mind it
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There is no confusion, it's just wrong but I'll save the discussion for the CRT
 
Yeah also there are actually established calcs that are better than the vague Sub Rel or Massively Hypersonic ratings that were given, what the hell?
 
Yelan's Class K feat already has a speed rating on it, I don't really trust Sub-Rel as a speed rating personally but I wasn't around for the CRT that pushed it through
 
Giannysmag said:
Well I'm probably gonna drop my downgrade later today so be around for that
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I had almost finished the thread in my sandbox and accidentally pressed x before saving it, now like half of the thread's gotten deleted...

I am gonna scream
 
Giannysmag said:
Idk man I'm currently making a thread to remove it. The calc and the entire scaling is ass
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Giannysmag said:
Don't kick me while I'm down
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I think there's a draft where it gets saved. Open a new tab, go to the forum and click Create Post, it should display a draft.
 
GarrixianXD said:
I think there's a draft where it gets saved. Open a new tab, go to the forum and click Create Post, it should display a draft.
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Unfortunately it wasn't in thread creation tabber thing, i was making it in my sandbox and didn't save it
 
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Genshin Impact Speed Downgrade

So recently numerous characters in Genshin Impact got upgraded to Sub-Relativistic based on this calc of Kazuha saving Traveler from Raiden and to put it simply, i have a lot of issues. First and most importantly the calc assumes Raiden's attack that Kazuha intercepts is moving at lightning...
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Giannysmag said:
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Genshin Impact Speed Downgrade

So recently numerous characters in Genshin Impact got upgraded to Sub-Relativistic based on this calc of Kazuha saving Traveler from Raiden and to put it simply, i have a lot of issues. First and most importantly the calc assumes Raiden's attack that Kazuha intercepts is moving at lightning...
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Arlecchino profile update coming once this thread is done
 
Gonna bump my thread once again in hope someone appears and evaluates it (i already asked most of the active staff)
 
Woomica said:
Gonna bump my thread once again in hope someone appears and evaluates it (i already asked most of the active staff)
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You'll get there eventually, in like six months.

Btw can you do me a solid and post about my thread to staff, mainly DDM and Propellus since they participated in the last thread
 
as someone playing arcchelino without shield on a mobile phone
I can confirm that souls games are literal chumps compared to this
 
Why does The Balladeer not have Atleast Magic in his P&A listed?
From 1.1 Event Quest
"???
If by "meteorite" you mean the rock that struck the cart — worry not, I have dealt with that already using my magic."

??? Here is the Balladeer still concealing his identity

He also should have resistance to Dream Manipulation as he was able to use his own power to get out of the Meteorite imposed dream.

" The Balladeer
Ugh... Huh? You again?
Traveler
How did you find this place?
Paimon
Look at the state he's in... Was he in that dream just now?
Mona
He managed to extricate himself from the dream on his own strength? How is that possible?
The Balladeer
Hah! Just because you are powerless to do something does not mean that I am. "


Also Shouki no Kami key should have the same Overwhelming Aura as Osial and Shogun as per Paimon's quote from Sumeru Chapter V
"Talk to The Balladeer
Paimon
This imposing aura... It really feels like a god's..."

He should also have Forcefield Creation as we literally see him do it in Irminsul during Inversion of Genesis also grants Resistance to Clairvoyance and Telepathy because it completely stopped Nahida's Ability to perceive and communicate with them.
In addition to that during the communication in the forcefield he is implied to be able to Brainwash those he communicates with I don't remember if it required contact or not but yeah, Mind Manipulation.

Also his Levitation should be changed to straight up Flight as there's an attack that has him teleport and fly across the map in an X pattern across the arena

Also gets Danmaku and Homing Attack with Cosmic Bombardment, Shard Rain and Thunder Spheres
Shockwave manipulation with multiple of his Electro Floor slams

Also Disease Manipulation and Empathic Manipulation, he commands massive amounts of Elemental Energy

AND Weapon Control for creating Nirvana Engines that are capable of firing electro independently and locking on to you

I don't fw game mechanics so I'm not going to mention stuff like his energy drain and stuff but he should get a Far Higher with Setsuna Shoumetsu as it's above all his attacks and even ignores all forms of Defense to Oneshot you just like Shogun's final Calamity


This should be in a CRT shouldn't it...
 
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