[Genshin] Arlecchino Minor Revision

[Saqphire]

Hello, I'm making this CRT because there's something about (part of) Arlecchino's justification that has kinda bugged me for a bit. It's mainly this part:

Attack Potency: Multi-Solar System level (Is implied to be a threat to the Fontaine Traveler and can fight against them, as well Lyney, Lynette and Ferminet. Was confident in assassinating Furina despite not knowing for certain whether she was a god or had access to the Hydro Gnosis.

My gripe with this justification is that confidence scaling scales absolutely nowhere, you can be confident about fighting X person yet end up getting no-diffed by said person after actually fighting them, we truly don't know how the fight would even go, and the no-diff situation happens countless of times in fiction including Genshin itself (Hilichurls ganging up on AR60 Lumine or AR30 Lumine fighting Base Ei says hello lol)

And Archons don't have a set power level with or without a Gnosis, that is evident with Raiden not having her own Gnosis on her person yet she's still considered as one of the strongest Archons in the verse, even being above or comparable to Archons with a Gnosis like Barbatos and Morax, therefore we cannot justify if Furina with her Gnosis would've been 4-A level nor can we justify if Arlecchino would've been able to contend with a Gnosis-amped Furina or not.

My solution? Just remove the justification entirely lmao, Arle's rating wouldn't change anyway since she still has scaling to Fontaine Lumine/Aether in her base form

 

[Weaver261]

The whole 4-A chain scaling comes from the same kind of justification where Hexenzirkel challenged Venti. Venti didn't even fought with them :3

 

[Giannysmag]

Should be fine to remove ig, tho like Weaver said it's a little funny that we are removing just this when the entire 4-A chain relies on confidence scaling (even wonkier confidence scaling infact since it was the witches being confident in beating Venti not the other way around)

 

[Saqphire]

The whole 4-A chain scaling comes from the same kind of justification where Hexenzirkel challenged Venti. Venti didn't even fought with them :3

Should be fine to remove ig, tho like Weaver said it's a little funny that we are removing just this when the entire 4-A chain relies on confidence scaling (even wonkier confidence scaling infact since it was the witches being confident in beating Venti not the other way around)

I see what yall mean, but you can actually interpret the words "X challenges Y" in Genshin as them actually fighting off-screen, as was the case for when Barbatos challenged Decarabian (i.e. nothing actually entails Venti declined the mages' challenge, just that he ended it with "Let us make music, not war") only difference being there was no clear winner.

Besides, given the context, do y'all really think the Hexenzirkel just went "Understandable, have a great day" to Venti if he actually ducked the fight? Cmon now we gotta have some logical reasoning here . Difference between that and the Arle example is that in Arle's case, this is a very clearcut case of confident scaling without any real basis here due to reasons provided

 

[Giannysmag]

I see what yall mean, but you can actually interpret the words "X challenges Y" in Genshin as them actually fighting off-screen, as was the case for when Barbatos challenged Decarabian (i.e. nothing actually entails Venti declined the mages' challenge, just that he ended it with "Let us make music, not war") only difference being there was no clear winner.

Besides, given the context, do y'all really think the Hexenzirkel just went "Understandable, have a great day" to Venti if he actually ducked the fight? Cmon now we gotta have some logical reasoning here . Difference between that and the Arle example is that in Arle's case, this is a very clearcut case of confident scaling without any real basis here due to reasons provided

Challenging someone is a long way off from actually fighting them, yes Venti challenged Decarabian and went through with it but that doesn't mean that every challenge will lead to a fight. The fact that the Hexenzirkel statement is "But he replied" implies that this was said immedeatly after they challenged him, thus the fight hadn't actually started yet