GDTMU deniers have continental levels of copium. If you see the neutral side of the arguments, people are going to say it's canon. The only people who says it isn't are desperate Hulkbros. They are eager to defend DB when even they wanked Hulk (Most infamously scaling to f*cking TOAA
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Bro woke up extra based today.GDTMU deniers have continental levels of copium. If you see the neutral side of the arguments, people are going to say it's canon. The only people who says it isn't are desperate Hulkbros. They are eager to defend DB when even they wanked Hulk (Most infamously scaling to f*cking TOAA
Also, anyone with a basic comprehension of how comic books work knows that Marvel has many, many, many, many, many more significant contradictions and timeline problems than GDTMU will ever have. It's a basic things for comic writers to ignore the lore and continuity for cool factor and still make it canon.GDTMU deniers have continental levels of copium. If you see the neutral side of the arguments, people are going to say it's canon. The only people who says it isn't are desperate Hulkbros. They are eager to defend DB when even they wanked Hulk (Most infamously scaling to f*cking TOAA
They didn’t really scale him to TOAA, it was them saying Ultima couldn’t access the below place IIRC. IMO it should have been a tie anyway cuz I don’t think Hulk or Banner could permakill Ultima.GDTMU deniers have continental levels of copium. If you see the neutral side of the arguments, people are going to say it's canon. The only people who says it isn't are desperate Hulkbros. They are eager to defend DB when even they wanked Hulk (Most infamously scaling to f*cking TOAA
Just look at how the Death Battle and Hulk fans behaved toward the Godzilla fans here:Also, anyone with a basic comprehension of how comic books work knows that Marvel has many, many, many, many, many more significant contradictions and timeline problems than GDTMU will ever have. It's a basic things for comic writers to ignore the lore and continuity for cool factor and still make it canon.
Also, no one tell them Immortal Hulk has hundreds of contradictions more than GDTMU
Regardless if they said that or not (They did say he broke a law made by the Mother of Horrors), the difference in the treatment of both is explicit. Here's the script, you don't even get the 6 billion c calc (which btw i made and resulted in it becoming more public) they used for Gigan and used it to cap "Base" Godzilla (Even though there are higher speed feats in the series)
Godzilla beats Hulk even after getting stomped, and their response is to ignore the comic because "it’s not good". lol
Death Battle didn't even bringed up his haxes or abilities like his constant mid-fight growth, him absorbing gamma, AZ attacks, regeneration, Mahoraga level adaptation, skills or the stuff present in the games.
It didn’t really seem like they “capped” “base” Goji at what they put, at least to me. They likely didn’t go over every single feat higher because in their opinion any Godzilla other than Ultima could not outmatch Hulk’s AP.
They didn’t bring everything they possibly could up because it would unnecessarily bloat the episode and make it a worse experience for casuals, they outright said this in following DBCs. And still, how does any of this get past Hulk’s resurrection?
Hulk also doesn’t get stronger after getting angrier, or regens whatsoever. (DGMW Godzilla def won that tho)
They scaled him to Thor and mentioned how he broke chains made of the first firmament, which both make him outer. (Also literally in like the paragraph after that btw)
I mean yeah that too so it shouldn't matter very much. Really, the only 1-As Gojis are Ultima and Marvel's one (which DB also ignored because by their logic Ultima could be the true form of Marvel Godzilla as well and therefore scale above TOAA)
Oh yeah, there's also D&D Godzilla, but i have no idea where that version scales
They didn’t “ignore” Marvel Goji, it was literally because GDTMU straight up was not out while they were making the episode and doing the research, much less the comic where he fights Hulk. (Also the difference between Ultima and his avatars is not even close to the gap between Hulk and TOAA)
Ultima is also Outer according DB, tho...
"Didn't we had a run decades ago where it's canon no ifs or buts?"
D&D Goji is also a fraud, he is only a thing in 4E which doesn’t scale to the modern cosmology, and even if he was in 5E he is not anywhere near characters like Ao or the Luminous being, who are some of the only tier 1 guys.
Was specifically not talking about true form Ultima there. Neither DB or me denied that
IIRC old Marvel Goji is like low 1-C or smth
Yeah the cope is real here. Agree with you on almost all points, just that Goji isn’t always displayed as “unstoppable”, especially if he is more heroic/writers want the audience to root for him.
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I didn't say always, just often. Even for more heroic Godzillas though, Godzilla is never a creature who can be taken lightly
…I never said that either DB or you denied that.
I think I misinterpreted you there, I thought you believed I was saying Ultima was not Outer. I was trying to imply that I took Ultima being Outer into consideration for my opinion when I responded there as well. My main point for it being a tie is that Goji does not scale high enough, or have the range to access the below place, which is where Hulk resurrects, and neither Banner or Hulk have actually shown the ability to negate Regen on the level of Ultima’s, so neither would be able to permakill each other (or for long enough) to win based on DB’s rules.
Ughh...
No worries...I was just trying to clarify that to DB Ultima is also Outer.
Wouldn't be suprised if DB justs sees Godzilla as "Cheesy giant monster who crossoved with Hatsune Miku!!!!!!!!" horsesh*t if even people who aren't powerscaling fans noticed that. The DB Cast episode for Mothra vs Lugia also made some nasty headcanons regarding how Ghidorah's beams work despite the fact it's literally stated they destroy molecular bonds.
TBH I don’t really get where people are coming from on DB “disrespecting Godzilla”, they do talk about the more serious stuff for him, even considering the fact that DB usually doesn’t go in depth into the serious, tragic parts of characters, and even more significantly IMO, Godzilla genuinely has a wider, more consistent history of media that is more similar to the (albeit made up) notion of “cheesy giant monster who crossovered with Hatsune Miku!!!!!!!” “horsesh*t”, than it isn’t (not saying that either kind of Godzilla is better or worse than the other, just that IMO DB did perfectly fine in addressing all aspects of Godzilla’s history).
Fair enough
