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I mean, you could also change the the keys here from their 6-A forms to their 5-C forms, cuz Ryuko's 5-C form is when she had the most notable RE feats and jumped in power most significantly in the series.
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Garou vs Ryuko
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XSOULOFCINDERX
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You actually can since their Tier is way above her own in her early Keys.
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Ok, then it's just a stomp for Ryuko, though I guess maybe Garou could deflect her scissor blade attacks like he did against Metal Bat, idk.
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Theyre only 6-A in cutting power, not general AP, hence why she's not 6-A in striking strength. Her blades can just cut stuff with 6-A durability, she cant bust an actual continent with her attacks in those keys.
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Edited this post to include a link to show you what I'm talking about.
azontr
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Only in cutting power. Not in actual AP. Being able to cut something of higher durability of oneself doesn't allow you to restrict it, especially not if it's something you can't restrict anyway.
XSOULOFCINDERX
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Or you know, just restrict her from cutting the opponent. That works too.
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So make it like the tennis match from episode 2, got it
azontr
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Wut u smoking G???
XSOULOFCINDERX
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Exactly. Just Blunt Force Strikes.
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In all seriousness though, restricting th scissor blade for that reason is nonsensical, that'd be like restricting Raiden's HF weapons just bcause he can cut people with higher durability than he can harm with his bare hands
XSOULOFCINDERX
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No, that's different because the HF Blade doesn't have a Tier Change. We literally restrict higher Tier attacks in Threads all the time regardless of if they're standard equipment or not.
azontr
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HF-Blades are worse because they work regardless of tier changes because of bullshit Quantum hax. Stop acting like the scissor blade is anything worse than that because it has a "tier change", a tier change that only applies to its ability to cut.
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Its not an attack, its just how sharp the sword is. If you want a better equivalence it would be like restricting Wolverine's claws because they can cut 3-C opponents
XSOULOFCINDERX
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We literally do that too.
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I have never once seen a vs thread where wolverine's claws were restricted
azontr
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No. We don't. Nobody does that ever.
XSOULOFCINDERX
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Because no one bothered to do it but it can because it's a higher tier attack. That's how the rules are written. Make a QNA if you don't believe me.
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Ryuko is vampire emergency food.
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He does it via quantum vibration, not AP.
You can't restrict abilities unless their higher tier, unless you're saying Ryuko's blades aren't actually AP but rather some sort of hax. If it's hax, it's fair game and can't be restricted, if it's AP, yes even cutting AP, it can be restricted if it's a higher tier. It may be semantics, but it's how it works.
Also you can restrict his HF blades, at least in MGS2, it's end game only.
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Also that's just because adamantium goes brr, and a caveat we have is while you can restrict higher AP, you can't restrict AP stuff that is impossible to restrict, Wolverine's body kinda falls under that, he can't really not have an adamantium skeleton. But you could restrict something like Guts DragonSlayer or Cloud's various high end materia, if they're above the default AP.
XSOULOFCINDERX
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I mean he can choose not to use his Claws so those can be restricted but you're correct.
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Ryuko doesnt do it via AP either, its literally just her sword being sharp, she isnt physically strong enough to dish out 6-A AP until her later keys when she becomes that strong physically
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Ok, then remove the AP from the profile? If it isn't AP, it shouldn't be listed as such.
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No reason for that, its the exact same reasoning for why Wolverine is 3-C with his claws, theyre just sharp enough to cut stuff that durable, they dont bust continent
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Well unfortunately you can't have both. If it's listed as AP, it's AP, it can be restricted. If it's hax or whatever, it can't, but in that case remove the fact it's listed as AP on the profile just mention it can cut strong dudes elsewhere.
You can't have both.
Also adamantium is legitimately that strong in general, and Wolverine falls under the caveat of you can't restrict that, you'd have to use his bone form if you don't want it. It's a different situation then Ryuko, it's not an equivalent.
You can't have both.
Also adamantium is legitimately that strong in general, and Wolverine falls under the caveat of you can't restrict that, you'd have to use his bone form if you don't want it. It's a different situation then Ryuko, it's not an equivalent.
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This is such a bizzare conundrum. Originally, yeah, it was just listed in the scissor blades' description that it can cut people with 6-A durability, but people didnt like that so it was moved to AP. Now its being argued that it shouldnt be AP and should just be listed in the weapon's description...
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Personally I think it should just be listed as AP, if it can harm stronger dudes without any inherent hax or whatever, unless there's actual hax reasoning for why it can but I don't remember that, then it's just AP. I'm fine with how it is.
But that also means if Cisco decides it should be restricted, he can technically do that, it's fair game. Personally I'm not a fan of restricting stuff, or hell even speed equal, but it is completely allowed in this situation.
And that's all I have to say, not touching a Garou match after the shitfest that was the skill thread.
But that also means if Cisco decides it should be restricted, he can technically do that, it's fair game. Personally I'm not a fan of restricting stuff, or hell even speed equal, but it is completely allowed in this situation.
And that's all I have to say, not touching a Garou match after the shitfest that was the skill thread.
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Ryuko can regen blood? I mean, yeah, but that takes a few hours. Every time she's running low on blood Senketsu tells her to rest, and she doesn't fight for a few hours. I'm also pretty sure the blood isn't made of Life Fibers. She's definitely not going to outlast Garou once he's blitzing her.
Whether not it's a stomp or not, I'm not sure. Maybe there's a chance Ryuko cuts his head off before he really starts ramping up in speed?
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That was an issue in the early episodes of the series yeah, but it stopped being one after she reached full Life Fiber Synchronization as Senketsu was able to function with a significantly smaller amount of blood, and even moreso after she reached True Life Fiber Synchronization
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Garou VS MCU Wanda?
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I don't think so since after True Life Fiber Synchronization (Post-Junketsu) she let Nue get away because she was running low on blood.
Would probably be an issue here if she's fighting someone who continually damages her with constantly evolving power.
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Garou regens his adaptation, gg
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Once Garou gets 3-C, Garou VS Gorr the God Butcher?
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He will never get 3-C
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