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Garou downgrade

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So today I’ll be downgrading garou to at least “unknown” level ap because, as seen in the recent chapter, garou was surprised that saitama was tougher than a mountain in durability, mind you the entire mountain wasn’t even destroyed https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/931803989102718976/969006126366601336/IMG_5123.png , https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/931803989102718976/969006196000423946/IMG_5124.png , https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/931803989102718976/969006196830912563/IMG_5126.png just part of it, on top of that it’s a volcano and there was massive amounts of seismic activity throughout this arc from various fights, from orochi up to saitama vs garou and even before iirc, so the mountain itself also might’ve been vastly weakened in terms of structure and the pressure from the lava which would be immense due to these factors could’ve been further weakening it, the shattering of not even half the mountain is probably small city at best and the fact that the mountain was massively weakened, would make the feat not even very quantifiable and possibly even below town level tiers, and this surpasses even current garou, the reason garou has “higher scaling” is purely due to skill, we know he can deflect attacks from opponents far stronger than him via skill, such as metal bat who could’ve killed him in one blow yet was getting utterly bodied by garou just because of skill, and garou also uses pressure points and even stated you can’t train your internal organs, so every time he attacks someone in the series it would just be durability negation, https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/931803989102718976/969000522696761385/IMG_5113.png some people may bring up platinum s and how garou exploded him, or cut in half sage centipede, but garou sliced in half sage BECAUSE he perfected his fist, nothing implies he got stronger, just that he got more skilled which makes more sense in context anyways, so clearly his skill can make what seem to be major ap gaps, even though they’re only skill, this could apply to platinum s and on top of that he was bleeding heavily from garou’s previous attack and likely super weakened, due to garou’s pressure points and skill as well as fighting flashy before this and getting constantly attacked by garou throughout the fight, he was also likely off guard considering he didn’t seem to expect garou to run through him, and in opm we’ve seen off guard make a big difference, genos literally blitzed and oneshot deep sea king, breaking his jaw and then evaporating enough water in his body to revert him to base, but then a base sea sea king rips off this same genos’ arm just because he’s off guard and cracked his body, leaving him unable to fight because of the extensive damage https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/931803989102718976/962116674381819944/0026-011.png , https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/931803989102718976/962116674948038656/0026-012.png , https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/931803989102718976/962116675241672855/0026-013.png , https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/931803989102718976/962116675539451904/0026-016.png , https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/931803989102718976/962116675866599505/0026-018.png so he wouldn’t scale to platinum s at all anyways, and as seen with saitama he can make attacks miss so why would him fighting platinum s mean anything if he never hits him along with anyone else he fights https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/931803989102718976/968999732124999740/IMG_5109.png also I wanna note how I’m the same Scene garou needs several martial arts attacks to destroy a rock of moderate size, so supporting evidence, also I think garou should have at least unknown speed considering most of his combat speed feats are precog https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/931803989102718976/969000362663088228/IMG_5110.png

I didn't write this but a friend who doesn't have a account asked me to post this
 
Nah, this is one random anti-feat. In fact, it was Garou himself who sent the rocks flying with a 6C attack. He had an explosive growth in power with resonance which allowed him to damage SC, and then after MB was out, Garou managed to one shot SC along his entire body length for 1000s of km. That doesn't happen from just skill.

Also, I'm planning on calcing the seismic actvity caused by Garou and Saitama's clash in the sky, which obviously be above Large Mountain Level.
 
chosen said:
so he wouldn’t scale to platinum s at all anyways, and as seen with saitama he can make attacks miss so why would him fighting platinum s mean anything if he never hits him along with anyone else he fights
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Also, he still has to parry those attacks, so he is using his physical strength to move Platinum S' 6C attacks to the side.

Edit: I accidently put my argument into the quote box.
 
Cryo123 said:
Nah, this is one random anti-feat.
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It ain’t even a random anti feat, it’s just terrible symbolism.
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Also, I'm planning on calcing the seismic actvity caused by Garou and Saitama's clash in the sky, which obviously be above Large Mountain Level.
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^^cant believe chosen said it would be less than town level lol. The mountain is huge btw, like absurdly, and it could very well be a 6-c feat.
 
that mountain/vulcan literally dwarves other mountains, well, this thread is terrible.

Metal Bat could one shot Garou because Metal Bat fighting spirit literally works by getting stronger according to how much damage he takes, the rest is a bunch of useless info?
 
chosen said:
as seen in the recent chapter, garou was surprised that saitama was tougher than a mountain in durability, mind you the entire mountain wasn’t even destroyed
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It's an obvious outlier, considering how consistent we have with much greater feats than 7-A that Garou scales to.

chosen said:
we know he can deflect attacks from opponents far stronger than him via skill, such as metal bat who could’ve killed him in one blow yet was getting utterly bodied by garou just because of skill
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Metal Bat only would've murdered garou at the end of their fight. And we know Metal Bat grows stronger the more he takes, so the MB at the end of the fight is much stronger than the MB Garou fought. Garou would still need to have some sort of comparable AP in order to deflect Metal bat's blows, or at least he's explode from just touching them. That's like a 9-C Martial Arts master could easily deflect blows from MCU Hulk because skill.

chosen said:
some people may bring up platinum s and how garou exploded him, or cut in half sage centipede, but garou sliced in half sage BECAUSE he perfected his fist, nothing implies he got stronger, just that he got more skilled which makes more sense in context anyways, so clearly his skill can make what seem to be major ap gaps, even though they’re only skill
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This is dumb. 6-C comes from Garou himself. And there is literally no "skill" involved when Garou rammed himself right through Platinum Sperm, or when he was punching Sage Centipede in the face. "Skill" is not some hax dura neg thing. AP would HAVE to be involve in order for Garou to even harm these characters

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he was also likely off guard considering
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Unlike Dragonball, being offguard doesn't lower your durability in OPM.

chosen said:
genos literally blitzed and oneshot deep sea king, breaking his jaw and then evaporating enough water in his body to revert him to base, but then a base sea sea king rips off this same genos’ arm just because he’s off guard and cracked his body, leaving him unable to fight because of the extensive damage
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That really just shows how DSK's dry form and rain form aren't really that far apart. And considering these two characters can tear each other apart, it could more be argued that DSK is likely a semi-glass cannon. Also how would Genos lower his durability? He's a machine, it's not like it's even stated he can lower the durability of the metals he's made of.

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so he wouldn’t scale to platinum s at all anyways, and as seen with saitama he can make attacks miss so why would him fighting platinum s mean anything if he never hits him along with anyone else he fights https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/931803989102718976/968999732124999740/IMG_5109.png also I wanna note how I’m the same Scene garou needs several martial arts attacks to destroy a rock of moderate size, so supporting evidence, also I think garou should have at least unknown speed considering most of his combat speed feats are precog
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Because almost all of Garou's attacks involve martial arts? And do you have proof they're precog? He isn't showing to use his precog in this fight, and precog can only get you so far in a fight.

The entire CRT is a big no
 
Maverick_Zero_X said:
P sure we avoid all anime-only stuff
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Bang (バング) also known as Silver Fang (シルバーファング Shirubā Fangu) is the now-retired former S-Class rank 3 superhero for the Hero Association. Settled in Z-City, Bang owns a dojo passed down from generations and uses the fighting style the Water Stream Rock Smashing Fist. He has an older brother...
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At stamina they use ova 8
 
chosen said:
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Bang (Silver Fang)

Bang (バング) also known as Silver Fang (シルバーファング Shirubā Fangu) is the now-retired former S-Class rank 3 superhero for the Hero Association. Settled in Z-City, Bang owns a dojo passed down from generations and uses the fighting style the Water Stream Rock Smashing Fist. He has an older brother...
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At stamina they use ova 8
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That just needs to be removed tbh
 
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Nah imma let him do that
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Are you gonna be posting his counterarguments here or does he have an account?

I highly doubt this will ever go through. No way the wiki, for all its faults, gonna put him at Unknown because of a single mountain statement 💀
 
Question, would the part that Garou said Saitama's internal organs should be crushed and states no one can train their internal organs and shows to be unscathed give him Limited Durability Negation Resistance?

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MarvelFanatic119 said:
Question, would the part that Garou said Saitama's internal organs should be crushed and states no one can train their internal organs and shows to be unscathed give him Limited Durability Negation Resistance?

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either limited durability negation resistance or he's just an exceptional case and have his internal organs strong as his external body
 
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