Ganondorf vs Archie Sonic

[MYHERO]

Both of you should drop this considering Sonic doesn't even have the SoA here.

 

[Wokistan]

It's in his standard equipment (as of now) and Cal didn't elaborate further at all, so I think he does.

 

[MYHERO]

Oh really? I thought it got revised.

 

[Wokistan]

I need to photoshop one letter and then Optional Equipment becomes a thing. I don't think Ant is awake rn though so we'd have to wait on that.

 

[MYHERO]

It should because Sonic isn't the type to carry a smurf kinda weapon around with him.

 

[MYHERO]

But now that he has it, what's stopping Sonic from powernulling Ganondorf?

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Considering that Ganondorf has never resisted 2-A schenanigans, nothing.

 

[MYHERO]

Well Sonic still has no way to bypass regen. So I guess inconclusive? Not voting yet.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

SoA has conceptual manipulation so it actually can.

 

[MYHERO]

What? Where was this shown?

 

[Wokistan]

I'd imagine that 2-A power null would be able to stop low godly anyways.

However he still has to be really close to Ganondorf for that to work.

 

[MYHERO]

Is Ganondorf a range type of guy?

 

[Wokistan]

Depends on the iteration. As for composite, I have no clue.

I'd argue that Ganondorf has better skill feats in terms of swordplay but sonic just needs to point a sword at him to do the thing. However, I only remember Mogul ever doing that. Is it in character for Sonic to just instadrain?

 

[MYHERO]

Shadow is going to have to answer that, but I don't think he would since Sonic in any interpretation isn't the type to spam haxxes.

 

[MYHERO]

But considering Sonic has two types of fate hax with the sword of acorn, I feel like Ganondorf to say the least would let himself be open to this scenario.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

I would say so.

Sonic used the SoA against Naugus which nullified his spell that placed a city population under mindhax and greatly weakened him.

 

[The_Causality]

How work the Power Null of Sonic? i've heared that he null only negative stuff (relevant here) but this resistance is on which scale? (2-A?)

 

[MYHERO]

To answer your second question, yes.

 

[The_Causality]

How he has a 2-A PNull for Negative energy on his 4-B form? i'm sorry to thought that but it seem a bit weird.

 

[ShakeResounding]

Sword of Light nullifies negative stuff, not Sword of Acorns. Sword of Acorns is anything.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

What you're thinking of is the Sword of Light, which is different.

Sword of Acorns works on anything.

 

[The_Causality]

When i think we don't talk about the same thing, i talk about the Passive Null of Sonic in his Super Form

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

That's holy manipulation which comes from his aura.

 

[The_Causality]

Yep, he has access to it in his 4-B form?

 

[MYHERO]

Yes.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Holy manipulation isn't really useful in his 4-B key.

It's much more effective in his 2-A keys.

 

[The_Causality]

Okay now:

What is the scale of his Null with Holy manip?

 

[MYHERO]

It should be effective here though. Am I wrong?

 

[TartaChocholate]

Remember Ganondorf also has the Triforce and its haxes which is of divine nature and not negative nor exactly magical. Still not much against the Sword of Arcorns from what I am getting, but would backup negation of his dark powers

By going into his Super Form doesn't Sonic jump a couple of tiers?

 

[MYHERO]

Yes and he solos Nintendo

Except Wave Existence

 

[ShakeResounding]

His Holy Manipulation, while active with his passive aura, only really has an impact while he's in Super/Ultra Form. It's something that hasn't shown to be too effective while in base.

 

[CrimsonStarFallen]

Yes and he solos Nintendo

Except Wave Existence

Xenogears is not Nintendo tho

 

[MYHERO]

Wait really?

 

[TartaChocholate]

EDIT: I think Xenogears was Squaresoft

Yeah... then the Super Sonic form and its abilities are out of the question unless we want a particularly ugly stomp here.

I can't really speak for his Swords or equipment given my lack of familiarity with Archie Sonic, though.

On a side note, I'd be more or less careful with the Fate Manipulation. If it is as potent as it is believed then Sonic by rule should not have experienced any kind of defeat, no matter how minor, or lost the upper hand for too long under any circunstance, nor be upstaged. As well as take in count which external, plot related factors like power ups, super modes, external help, depowering, items, aided him to turn the tables, I mean, stuff that won't appear here.

 

[ShakeResounding]

Funnily enough, Sonic's Fate Hax working on a 2-A being is consistent with Sonic being gifted his Aura by The Ancient Walkers, who are also 2-A.

@Tarta Which is basically the cause of chaos for any Fate Manip user. The unpredictability is why any users of Fate Hax are a headache to deal with.

 

[MYHERO]

EDIT: I think Xenogears was Squaresoft

So Sonic solos Nintendo?


"Nice"

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Strongest Nintendo character is Arceus and Archie Sonic roflstomps him.

 

[MYHERO]

Man you really love saying that every chance you get don't you?

Then again so do I.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Just to remind Cal.

 

[The_Smashor]

And Arceus CAN beat non glass cannon 2-As I might add. Just not Archie Sonic.