Ganondorf vs Archie Sonic

[The_real_cal_howard]

Because why not? Speed equalized. 4-B for both.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

yes

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

.... You are setting yourself up for a multitude of "Fate Hax" reasonings. '''WHY''' did you do this to yourself ?

 

[TriforcePower1]

Why are you doing this to me ;(

 

[Dust_Collector]

Hmmmmmmmm?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Because why not

 

[The_Smashor]

Both are pretty close to baseline I'm pretty sure (Sonic is baseline outright while Ganon is only Earth to Sun I think). Even if you ignore fatehax, they can't really kill each other. Sonic will come back because lolprotagonist and Ganon will come back because lolsequels. (I know it dosn't matter thanks to SBA but it's still a neat comparison). Anyway, as you were waiting for...


Sonic via Fatehax.

 

[TriforcePower1]

But Ganon is like, x50 baseline. 1,2 kiloFoE.

 

[The_Smashor]

Close in comparison to the spammed 4-Bs

Anyway, does Sonic have a way to actually kill ganon while being kept alive by lolfatehax since his AP disadvantage is way bigger then I thought? I honestly don't know how most of his powers work.

 

[TartaChocholate]

Would Gordondarf's own Realitiy Warping via Triforce help? Wishes and stuff?

 

[Jinsye]

I dunno maybe fatehax tells the Triforce that Ganondorf is an asshole and the Triforce leaves Ganon or smth

 

[TartaChocholate]

I may be wrong on this one, but: I skimmed through the blog about fate bending itself to let Sonic win every time, but it mostly goes on defensive boosts he gets to get out of pinches. Maybe I missed stuff, but the whole thing saves Sonic while not really winning for him? If the character outclasses Sonic's offenses what can Sonic do without having access to his Super forms and similar? How does the Fate Hax manifests itself offensively?

I mean sure, it leads him to victory, but how exactly? Simply going with "Sonic wins no matter what happens or who he faces" outside the context of the comic itself may be falling into a NLF?

 

[Paul_Frank]

Does this Ganon have the ability to bfr sonic to the dark world

 

[Dust_Collector]

He does, BFR is basically this Ganons thing.

 

[The_Smashor]

Is Ganon's BFR dodgeable?

 

[Paul_Frank]

Not really he just kinds thinks to the Triforce and the opponent is bfr'd to the dark world

 

[The_Smashor]

Does Archie have a way to get out?

 

[Paul_Frank]

It powernulls and passively transmutates so probably not

 

[TartaChocholate]

To be fair a Triforce wish needs a few moments of focus to be used, but is like a couple of seconds of concentration.

 

[TriforcePower1]

Ganon's BFR is from his own powers, not the Triforce's.

 

[TartaChocholate]

@Triforce: Ah, my bad. Then it's easier to access and use than I previously thought.

EDIT: Should be noted, though, that BFR isn't Ganondorf's only option, he's strong enough to one shot.

 

[Oblivion_Lightning]

Does Sonic have a way to escape the Dark World?

Edit:Nvm anyway Ganondorf via BFR

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Sonic resists power null and transmutation.

He also has dimensional travel to come back from BFR.

 

[TriforcePower1]

Okay, but how strong transmutation? Dark World transmutes the equivalent of a 4-B realm.

 

[The_Causality]

Okay, but how strong transmutation? Dark World transmutes the equivalent of a 4-B realm.

Sonic doubt

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Sonic resists power null and transmutation.

He also has dimensional travel to come back from BFR.

I don't doubt this one for once but I don't remember the thread that was added.

 

[TartaChocholate]

Okay, but how strong transmutation? Dark World transmutes the equivalent of a 4-B realm.

That would be to the Dark World being a realm with a sun, right?

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Sonic resists power null and transmutation.

He also has dimensional travel to come back from BFR.

I don't doubt this one for once but I don't remember the thread that was added.

It was this one.

 

[TartaChocholate]

So, Dark World BFR is countered, then. Well, Ganondorf still has AP and, from what I can gather, hax advantage.

 

[MYHERO]

I may be wrong on this one, but: I skimmed through the blog about fate bending itself to let Sonic win every time, but it mostly goes on defensive boosts he gets to get out of pinches. Maybe I missed stuff, but the whole thing saves Sonic while not really winning for him? If the character outclasses Sonic's offenses what can Sonic do without having access to his Super forms and similar? How does the Fate Hax manifests itself offensively?

I mean sure, it leads him to victory, but how exactly? Simply going with "Sonic wins no matter what happens or who he faces" outside the context of the comic itself may be falling into a NLF?

Well simply, it can't be used offensively. But the defense for this thing is still hecka solid. 2-A Super Scourge was left jobbing due to Sonic's fate hax. It could apply here.

 

[MYHERO]

Inb4 people say it's CIS and not fatehax.

 

[TriforcePower1]

Inb4 people say it's CIS and not fatehax.

That's because it is

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Sonic's fate hax induces CIS.

 

[MYHERO]

Doesn't matter because Sonic loses here anyways.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Is Ganondorf's stuff magic based? If so Sonic nulls his shit.

 

[Wokistan]

SoA has low range.

 

[MYHERO]

Probably yes probably no, but Sonic has no way to bypass his low godly. Even if his hax are magic and gets nulled, that still doesn't change the fact that he has a wide AP advantage.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Wasn't talking about the SoA. Sonic's aura nulls magic used against him.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

SoA BTW has 2-A range. It ripped through the Chaos Force and erased the Ancient Walkers.

 

[Wokistan]

That doesn't really mean he can just snipe him with it. In all the instances it was used, the target was quite near the user of the sword to be drained. It's like saying Gorechild has 1-B range for annihilating that keeper of secrets.