Fusion Warrior vs Fusion Materials

[MrLuk2000]

Base Gogeta vs SSBE Evolution Vegeta and SSB Kaio-Ken X20 Goku

SSB Kaio-Ken X20 Goku

Gogeta is at his base form

SSB and SSJ Gogeta is restricted

Gogeta has no time limiter

SSBE Evolution Vegeta

Speed Equal

Who wins and why?

 

[Akreious]

Isn't Base Gogeta arguably equal or superior to 2nd/3rd UIO Goku?

 

[Omegas03]

I see SSJBKKx20 and SSJBE winning against Gogeta if you mean Goku and Vegeta from DBS Broly. Else Gogeta stomps if it's ToP Goku and Vegeta.

Though I am talking about Base Gogeta. SSJ Gogeta wins no matter what.

 

[Akreious]

Uhh. Not really?

Base Gogeta is stated stronger than SSJBKKx20 Goku (Rough equal to Vegeta) by Editorial statements and Goku's own statement at the end of the movie where he said he was nearing his peak (Meaning at least around 3rd UIO levels of strength). Base Gogeta later whooped Broly's arse and forced him to become even more powerful, which Gogeta responded by also becoming more powerful.

We basically have several statements and power increases that says Base Gogeta shrekts the strongest forms of Vegeta and Goku.

Which isn't all that far fetched for Fusions in Dragon Ball. Kale and Caulifla went from being punked by Goku's SSG form to Ultra Instinct levels from their fusion and it's flat out stated that Gogeta, due to the rivalry of the component characters, are enormously powerful even by fusion standards.

 

[Ovrhide]

Base gogeta is stronger than current blue goku and vegeta. A ssj gogeta no diffs ssbkkx20 and ssbe do to the fact that it is a 50x multiplier.

 

[ZERO7772]

Since Base Gogeta was portrayed as superior to SSB Goku/Vegeta and he can go SSJ on that top of it, that makes him 50x stronger than Blue forms. SSJ Gogeta easily takes this.

Heck, you could make an argument for even base Gogeta being stronger than Goku/Vegeta max based on how fusion works.

 

[KingEzran]

If TOP, Gogeta stomps. If Broly Movie, Gogeta also stomps. As Gogeta stated, not only are their powers added, but multiplied. Goku didn't use SSBKK in the broly movie because it wouldn't make a difference. Vegeta didn't use SSBE because he doesn't know how to control it.

 

[MrLuk2000]

Perhaps I should restrict SSJ?

 

[KingEzran]

That will work. If SSJ restricted, Gogeta probably wins low, possibly mid diff. Something else is that, Gogeta is gonna see all of their moves coming because he is both of them. Goku and Vegeta won't see it coming because not only is it a mixture of their fighting styles, but also their Broly Movie fighting styles. For example, after Goku and Rozie's fight he learned a new fighting style that he used to defeat Rozie.

 

[ZERO7772]

I don't think base Gogeta has any feats that put him above ascended, at best he's stronger than SSB Goku.

 

[MrLuk2000]

If TOP, Gogeta stomps. If Broly Movie, Gogeta also stomps. As Gogeta stated, not only are their powers added, but multiplied. Goku didn't use SSBKK in the broly movie because it wouldn't make a difference. Vegeta didn't use SSBE because he doesn't know how to control it.

Actually I think he can. When Vegeta Self-Destructed after his fight with Toppo, he was heavily fatuiged, but when he, Goku, and Android 17 teamed up to fight Jiren, Vegeta entered into his SSBE Transformation no problem before running out of Stamina.

 

[KingEzran]

I don't think base Gogeta has any feats that put him above ascended, at best he's stronger than SSB Goku.

WAY STRONGER! Put SSB Goku against full power broly again and see what happens.

 

[KingEzran]

Actually I think he can. When Vegeta Self-Destructed after his fight with Toppo, he was heavily fatuiged, but when he, Goku, and Android 17 teamed up to fight Jiren, Vegeta entered into his SSBE Transformation no problem before running out of Stamina.

In that case it would be just like Goku's. It wouldn't make a difference. Put me down as Gogeta for the reasons above that I've made.

 

[ZERO7772]

Base Gogeta didn't fight FP Broly tho? SSBKK and SSBE doesn't exist in the movie so there is no way of comparing Gogeta to those forms.

 

[KingEzran]

You're right. But he taunted Broly with ease, which is definitely a struggle for Goku and Vegeta. Wanna know why? Because Gogeta also has a speed advantage against Goku and Vegeta.

 

[ZERO7772]

Again we have no way of comparing Gogeta to Kaio-ken and evolution and he's obviously weaker than SSJ Broly even if he deflected some of his attacks

 

[KingEzran]

Also, Broly Goku and Broly Vegeta are stronger than TOP Goku and Vegeta. Broly characters are already stronger than TOP characters, and then you add the multiplier of Metamoran.