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Frauds -Alastor vs Sukuna- 0-7 (GRACE)

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Rules
•Alastor has access to Angelic Weaponry
•Sukuna's first key is used
•Battle takes place in Shibuya
•Distance is 20 meters from eachother
•Speed equalized

Alastor:
Upscales to 100 Tons of TNT
Scales to 1156.36176953 tons

Sukuna: @Anonymous_Learner, @Bimbitesthedust, @GodEarh206, @Robo432343, @AthelChan, @Gamecooob, @Ms.Luzifer
Scales to 73.8 Tons of TNT (Apparently he scales to this, idk why his profile says 58 tons especially since there's no calc with that value)
Scales to 2.45 tons
 
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Just wait till about a year or so Sukuna gets the Demon Slayer treatment where he will get a ridiculous level of skill slop, ftl+ reactions and enhanced passive fear hax or smth like that
 
Sukuna has the advantage of being able to toss multiple invisible slashes that move faster than him. All he'd really need to do is spam it and he should be fine, plus his regenerative qualities
that's not to count out alastor, who can just as easily toss him around with his tentacles, spam shadow creatures for cannon fodder, teleport and otherwise.
Hmm. With that crazy LS advantage and just ap advantage, I feel Al can just rip Sukuna's head off but sukuna's iq, sensory ablities, and having domain and furnace in his back pocket, i feel like it's a very close one. Going with Sukuna due to his Battle iq and craftiness (Binding vows galore).
 
Steve1775 said:
Just wait till about a year or so Sukuna gets the Demon Slayer treatment where he will get a ridiculous level of skill slop, ftl+ reactions and enhanced passive fear hax or smth like that
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Hearing this is whiplash

anyway whilst Sukuna is weaker (albeit with a small ap disadvantage and a LS disadvantage). Sukuna does have the advantage of a powersystem that gives him alot of passive hax which includes pain manip, curse manip, limited mind manip and info analysis/analytical prediction (these two are possibly able to work due to alastor having an aura however its effectiveness is into question due to how Alastors aura seems to be?)

There is additionally domain however regen could do something against it albeit alastor could do well in that.

Sukuna might take this since Sukuna should have better battle iq and has an powersystem with alot of random things that Alastor doesnt seem to resist

Not battle spirit diff but maybe?
 
Bimbitesthedust said:
There is additionally domain however regen could do something against it albeit alastor could do well in that.
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The Low-High regen is overtime and an unknown amount of time, same as the regening limbs
soo, the domain will at the very least incapacitate al long enough for him to be the victor
 
Anonymous_Learner said:
The Low-High regen is overtime and an unknown amount of time, same as the regening limbs
soo, the domain will at the very least incapacitate al long enough for him to be the victor
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if thats the case then maybe its a bit more effective

issue is that the domain in terms of ap and Alastors regen might make it annoying due to the ap advantage alastor has

The main issue is that Alastor cant resist/counter the following

  1. Pain Manipulation (passive of CE)
  2. Curse Manipulation (passive of CE)
  3. limited mind manipulation (passive of CE)
  4. invulnerability negation and possible soul manip (ones a passive and ones a case for Sukuna having it due to harming Mahito, these should be enough to actually kill Alaster)
  5. Danmaku and Layered Invisibility (Sukuna having it with shrine so Alastors not seeing that shit and the passives come in way more)
  6. Damage Reduction, Statistics Amplification, etc (ways for Sukuna to buff himself to make the gap smaller since Sukuna is atleast city block physically and higher with shrine and he can reduce Alastors damage via reduction which could help nullify Alastors higher part of his stats
  7. Binding Vows

The main issue is likely the angelic weapons but Sukuna likely will figure pretty quickly
 
Anonymous_Learner said:
Sukuna has the advantage of being able to toss multiple invisible slashes that move faster than him. All he'd really need to do is spam it and he should be fine, plus his regenerative qualities
that's not to count out alastor, who can just as easily toss him around with his tentacles, spam shadow creatures for cannon fodder, teleport and otherwise.
Hmm. With that crazy LS advantage and just ap advantage, I feel Al can just rip Sukuna's head off but sukuna's iq, sensory ablities, and having domain and furnace in his back pocket, i feel like it's a very close one. Going with Sukuna due to his Battle iq and craftiness (Binding vows galore).
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idk if Sukuna would have furnace here due to 2/3f not showing it
 
Anonymous_Learner said:
we have the exact conditions for furnace. 3F sukuna can open his domain to the same radius. he technically SHOULD be able to do it but i digress. domain should still be enough
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Im gonna go with two different routes, one with fuga and the other without it

Route 1 - If Sukuna has Fuga, Alastors cooked. I dont see fire resistance from alastor or any resistance to the properties of Fuga and with it being a HIGH 7-C attack vs a 8-A character Sukuna has more wincons now

Route 2 - Same as before but without Fuga. Basically Sukuna is gonna read Alastor like a book, dodge continously and once he realizes that Alastor is actually stronger than him hes popping domain or just danmakuing bro until he becomes mincemeat
 
Steve1775 said:
Just wait till about a year or so Sukuna gets the Demon Slayer treatment where he will get a ridiculous level of skill slop, ftl+ reactions and enhanced passive fear hax or smth like that
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Never until everyone who argues with him stop jobbing him.
 
Bimbitesthedust said:
Im gonna go with two different routes, one with fuga and the other without it

Route 1 - If Sukuna has Fuga, Alastors cooked. I dont see fire resistance from alastor or any resistance to the properties of Fuga and with it being a HIGH 7-C attack vs a 8-A character Sukuna has more wincons now
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idk much about JJK but this is Sukuna's first key which doesn't have a High 7-C for fuga
 
Ms.Luzifer said:
idk much about JJK but this is Sukuna's first key which doesn't have a High 7-C for fuga
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Im not saying that I think that Sukuna's first key has access to Fuga but rather that anonymous learner has discussed that Sukuna can utilize Fuga due to the conditions to making it

Im just saying that if he does have Fuga (which he might not atp) then it would be another wincon since he just bombs alastor

But realistically even without it Sukuna has a good case for beating Alastor
 
I originally was gonna give Sukuna prior knowledge due to Alastor having Angelic Weaponry, but reading the replies, im so glad I dropped that, it probably made it a Landslide w for Sukuna
 
Ms.Luzifer said:
I originally was gonna give Sukuna prior knowledge due to Alastor having Angelic Weaponry, but reading the replies, im so glad I dropped that, it probably made it a Landslide w for Sukuna
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the funny part is that if Alastor didnt have an aura then he simply would've had a potential wincon via suprising sukuna w the angelic tentacles

But with Sukuna having the skill advantage and now being able to use information analysis and analytical prediction thanks to Alastor wanting to have aura, he reads bro like a book 😭

its the same fight like Ryu where Sukuna will be surprised by Alastor and either will go with a direct slash to kill or domain
 
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