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Actually a CRT by Probotboy, I'm just posting it here for instructing purposes.

I was wondering if you can unlock the edits for Barry Allen's profiles of the Post Crisis and Post Flashpoint versions of himself. Barry doesn't have martial arts/combat skill for either of them and I believe that thoses needs to be updated. I have evidence to prove my case.

For Barry Allen Pre/Post-Crisis Continuity Profile.

The Flash Vol 1 issue 157 (1959)

Judo

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-gQlGkwid_y0/Vnt7ILUC7GI/AAAAAAAAJtk/foC7VGHHdm4/s1600-Ic42/RCO010.jpg

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-pSpfQVrU02g/Vnt7IR82M6I/AAAAAAAAJtk/QabgsRsVKAI/s1600-Ic42/RCO011.jpg

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-sti6gVPauqA/Vnt7Jj1HFrI/AAAAAAAAJtk/3ecPQ-pBQhg/s1600-Ic42/RCO015.jpg

The Flash Vol 1 issue 176 (1959)

Boxing

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-gZMyWvzH-Yg/Vnt_anGWSPI/AAAAAAAALLo/x_KD907Zxss/s1600-Ic42/RCO006.jpg

The Brave and the Bold Vol 3 28

Military Protocol

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/XFx5e-wP-...Xyy-gDlmXjuTducRJKEQwG4M2RDJDjsSo5mYCRE=s1600

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/UpUiwww_8...2Pxh7DQLHap55lHuuskNzh9zn_YZadNM4qtAKI8=s1600

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/xRsr_PvzR...52FQHSaZPHgaAROhs5IWCwipAeDCQ0Q59bcvCMS=s1600

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/ukLgEVAgF...Ya_RnW_2NvsXe559WFMyvAn3_kKhyObOgRgzoQg=s1600

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/fO4vJUcG8...hGPnRyKbTJ9-_ND0yw8nuidf6I9brl_CE8w9ejE=s1600

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/MT8gsj9TG...kmUFfpr2vTkIx_dfNqvePED7y0HvilPL0QfI1YB=s1600

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/1XNDnS2Q-...smNggbp2vzEz1pxoggzDcGxV6YuFDxWinnkCQCb=s1600

No powers

Justice League of America Vol 1 26

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-SMIdBSjM..._zFHASJTWgH7tOmEDeEQCCo/s1600-Ic42/RCO017.jpg

Green Lantern Vol 2 20

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/zoqN-zGfE...ZZxLxzMtPSrCTjFOusq7wNLHdl_OWrGw1m6pe0N=s1600

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/iOh5fO1fS...4s4W_IW5T-l2XF0z7zPfTHho25Ys3l1_QL-FBGX=s1600

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/utgrS5UuK...R2UwM2YOwq9rrtDqXzwKxCtlUlBI3TQAy0vQ73T=s1600

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/--TGzWWl1...ZPfG1tZKbPVHSV92jshi7KgYukRmPXtxJLoK8Bi=s1600

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/SMknFnqXj...epPRHJtgqly7miRbfmS6FCnh2q_-VGVghLZu7SF=s1600

The Flash Vol 3 12

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-L9RRSY6yrug/Vnvg5jPmG0I/AAAAAAAAKmo/MeZtO75nE5A/s1600-Ic42/RCO004.jpg

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8l73oTBRpkA/Vnvg5lNomuI/AAAAAAAAKmo/tWvVpadpTUA/s1600-Ic42/RCO005.jpg

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-dB-YftGKilM/Vnvg55gG68I/AAAAAAAAKmo/ALi67N5kuJ0/s1600-Ic42/RCO006.jpg

Flashpoint Vol 2 2

(Taking a beating and still dodging and landing an attack on Flashpoint Batman)

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-DfWkmeYt_NE/VsrNWBhsCTI/AAAAAAAAEzo/lbKZP1wmhQ8/s1600-Ic42/RCO010.jpg

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-vuQZGK5l-to/VsrNWdNoHKI/AAAAAAAAEzo/1zU2H9DnPO4/s1600-Ic42/RCO011.jpg

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-L0ss3DEL65s/VsrNWbIrQ9I/AAAAAAAAEzo/c0ixibvNC0M/s1600-Ic42/RCO012.jpg

As for the Barry Allen of the Post Flashpoint continuity.

The Flash Vol 4 25

He has had police training and stalemated an experience corrupt cop, before being saved by Detective Avery Bullock and before he became the Flash.

The Flash Vol 4 19

He went commando and used the Rouges weapons to take down a miltia known as the Outlanders, without his powers.

The Flash Vol 5 36

Barry one-shot Axel Walker (the Trickster) with just a punch without his powers.

The Flash Vol 5 issue 37 and The Flash Vol 5 issue 38

He actually moved his body in Absolute Zero temperatures, when his powers were nullified and proceeded to fight back against Captain Cold, getting two hits in, before going down.

Dark Nights: Metal Vol 1 1

He fought alongside the Justice League without powers, using a flail and shield and actually held his own against a robot that bared his likeness.

Justice League Vol 4 23

Plus he was the ones who fought back after he and the Justice League were captured in the 6th dimension Apokolips prison when their powers were nullified.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/CVSVNmasI...fPRNccXysKsj7DsIlhql7F6CANFNZNTC4cXRJjg=s1600
 
Yeah he's defiently skilled. Not Batman or Wonder Woman level, but all of the JLA possess some form of martial talent. So I'm in support for adding it to his profile.
 
Well, before anything, one day I'll make an important and ignored thread pointing out how being good a fighting=/=Martial Arts and that feats on the former should not go under the latter.

>"Boxing

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-gZMyWvzH-Yg/Vnt_anGWSPI/AAAAAAAALLo/x_KD907Zxss/s1600-Ic42/RCO006.jpg "

From what I can tell, he's just punching a guy.

>Military Protocol

None of that shows that they trained him.

>"Justice League of America Vol 1 26

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-SMIdBSjM..._zFHASJTWgH7tOmEDeEQCCo/s1600-Ic42/RCO017.jpg "

?

The rest is good.
 
When Barry says Kayo, I figured he meant Kayo Boxing. Also the Green Lantern Vol 1 issue 20, shows off some boxing skill. I believed it was implied, since Barry spent weeks with them. As for the Justice League of America Vol 1 issue 25, Barry had his Super speed stripped from him and transferred into a dinosaur. Him punching the villain was him using his natural strength without powers.
 
  • I'm not sure if kayo necessarily means that.
  • Ok.
  • I know but I don't think the implication is enough. He also put on a uniform pretty quickly, so there is that.
  • What he does doesn't require much skill.
The accepted things can be added but the stuff that take many pages should be turned into albums on imgur, so we can show that better.
 
- Alright then.

- So we agree on at least on that one?

- Well Barry sticking around in the past with WW2 Black Hawks has to count for something. Barry's technically a WW2 soldier. Also, no one says that Barry didn't have powers during that story arc. What does that have to do with anything?

- Barry punching out a Despero with no powers, with the aid of a Superspeed Dino, has to count for something.

I guess that seems fair.
 
That would need evidence. I don't agree with the other 2 things, sorry.
 
So Barry being a soldier in WW2 and using his natural strength without powers to finish off Despero after the Dinosaur softens him up, all don't count for anything? Is that what you're saying?
 
Eficiente's evaluations are probably fine.
 
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