Fire Emblem Speed

[Miles_Romero12]

Remember, the dragons destroyed her soul because the rest of the holy dragons refused to create war dragons to fight the humans, and the sword of seals restored her soul at the endgame.

Should this be added to Fire dragon (FE7)? i mean, its in the lore.

and have everyone from FE7-6 have resistance to soul manip?

 

[Reppuzan]

@Miles

The Sword of Seals did not restore her soul, it was gradually recovering at Arcadia and spending time with Fae that did that.

 

[Miles_Romero12]

Im pretty sure that was the whole point in dealing the final blow with the SoS.

And, there is no indication of that being the reason for her soul recovery.

 

[Reppuzan]

@Miles

The point of the final blow with the Sword of Seals was to subdue her without killing her. If the Sword of Seals just instantly restored her soul, there would be no point to this scene.

 

[Miles_Romero12]

I didnt say it was instant, if its a secondary effect, it should be noted. even if it makes her regain it on a large period of time

But we should leave this topic for another thread or time. Are we pkay with adding regular sealing on roy's page? We should be discussing the updated bolting calc and if we should give fire dragons soul destruction for what they did to ideenn.

 

[Miles_Romero12]

Also, can i start deleting heroes forms from all the pages?

 

[Reppuzan]

@Miles

Yes, but do them one at a time and don't rush these. I don't have the time to monitor the edits if you do them rapid fire.

 

[Miles_Romero12]

got it.

one by one

 

[Miles_Romero12]

bump

 

[Lina_Shields]

So, let's change the profiles that specifically scale to the lightning feat that's been calculated.

Mind listing down the characters (or the game) here? I was planning to clean up the Fire Emblem profiles for some time now anyways.

 

[Miles_Romero12]

Those who specifically scale?

FE7-6. (Aka, the blazing sword and Binding Blade.)

The feat is from FE7 on base forms, and everyone from FE6 scales by lore to FE7.

FE8 (Sacred Stones) shares animations with FE7. (Blazing Blade) But their backgrounds are different, so i dont know if we should consider it valid for scaling.

 

[Reppuzan]

@Miles Romero12

The Sacred Stones would scale due to the fact that they fight General Selena, who also uses Bolting.

 

[Miles_Romero12]

Yeah, i kinda of agree.

but the calc is based on those pillars in the background.

So, i dont know if it should still count. If theres a similar structure in sacred stones, then i am all for it being scaled to massively hypersonic

 

[Reppuzan]

@Miles

Given that the animation for Bolting is the exact same and the fact that you must fight and defeat Selena as part of the story, I don't see the problem.

 

[Miles_Romero12]

I know, its just a very minor thing.

 

[Miles_Romero12]

bump

 

[Miles_Romero12]

Okay guys

Just say the word and ill upgrade the GBA cast to MHS

 

[Antvasima]

Is it okay with you Reppuzan?

 

[Reppuzan]

I'm fine with upgrading the characters I've specified (from the sixth, seventh, and eighth games), but no others.

In addition, we need to work on deleting the Heroes' tabs, as they use faulty crossover scaling.

 

[Miles_Romero12]

Alright then. I will go upgrade the GBA (6,7,8) profiles to MHS.

And, aside from Lucina´s page, almost all "Heroes" tabs have already been eliminated.

Should the Heroes cast stay At least High 6-A for facing base FE6?

 

[Reppuzan]

I don't think so. Crossover games like these are generally very bad indicators of power, as even characters that would normally be comparable to each other by our ratings (i.e. Superman and Hulk) would suddenly be stronger or weaker for the sake of plot.

 

[Miles_Romero12]

Is it okay i put them as Unknown for now?

 

[Lina_Shields]

Let's focus on characters from Fire Emblem 6 and 7 that specifically scale to the lightning feat.

There's Raven who dodged the lightning, and there's the girl who cast that lightning, and...

 

[Miles_Romero12]

Everyone in FE7 is comparable to Raven. And everyone in FE6 scales to FE7. FE8 is being included because they use the same animation for the spell.

 

[Reppuzan]

@Lina

While some characters are swifter than others, the vast majority of characters in Fire Emblem are comparable to each other in combat speed and reactions due to being able to strike each other in-game and in cutscenes.

 

[Miles_Romero12]

There we go.

ALL GBA pages have been updated to Massively Hypersonic! Now, i am gonna check the pages from the other sagas than incorrectly state that they can dodge bolting. (Exept Geneology and the Tellius games, which have different animations)

 

[Antvasima]

Have you inserted explanations for the speed ratings as well?

 

[Lina_Shields]

So, from Fire Emblem: The Binding Blade, the profiles we have in that game are: Roy (Fire Emblem), Lilina, Fae (Fire Emblem), Zephiel (Fire Emblem), Iden, Cecilia (Fire Emblem).

All of those characters would scale to the lightning dodging feat. However, it would be appreciated if a valid reasoning was added to why they scale, however...

As for Fire Emblem 7, or FE: Blazing Sword, we have...

• Eliwood (Fire Emblem), Lyndis, Hector (Fire Emblem), Nino, Nergal, Fire Emblem, Ninia, Athos (Fire Emblem), Ursula (Fire Emblem)

As for the reasoning for their speed, we can just say that they scale to Raven, who moved at this speed when he dodged a lightning bolt. As for why they scale to Raven, it's because they are Raven's party members during the game...

 

[Miles_Romero12]

Of course.

I dont know if we should put the "at least" in the holy weapon forms, since we dont know if they actually become..."faster", but aside from that, everything is as good as new.