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Well, we should add a "with X" key for the units that can use the divine weapons tbh, even Serra, who we all probably benched as soon as we got Prescilla
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Fire Emblem Speed
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Fine by me.
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Then, i guess everyone agrees on my calc and in the "with X" forms?
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If you mean the one that would make them FTL to MFTL then no, that is still being sorted out and has yet to be accepted by anyone...
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Alright then.
The thread must go on
The thread must go on
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There is a new super duper awesome calc in my blog who puts Elibe/GBA/Everyone with bolting at my profile!
Made by lina shields!
Made by lina shields!
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This needs to be bumped. Originally, the light dodging calc was rejected because the said "beam of light" makes immediate contact with the opponent before they can react.
However, with the lightning/bolting, the characters can actually dodge it soon after the lightning bolt is fired.
The result of said calc is around Mach 220.
Also, is there a video where any of the characters dodge meteors in the game? That can be calculated as well.
However, with the lightning/bolting, the characters can actually dodge it soon after the lightning bolt is fired.
The result of said calc is around Mach 220.
Also, is there a video where any of the characters dodge meteors in the game? That can be calculated as well.
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It already has been calculated. Its on the "important calculations" section on the Fire Emblem verse page.
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So, Massively Hypersonic is the result of the lightning dodge update?
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Yes, Lina did an amazing job.
But the problem is how we are gonna implement it.
and i have three suggestions on how to. 1.-The feat happened in FE7, so, FE6 obviously scale from the older generation. FE7 & FE6.
2.-Since all GBA games have the same animation for Bolting, this might be implemented to FE 6,7 and 8.
3.-We scale by lore and everything that has bolting gets upgraded to Massively Hypersonic.(Geneology, GBA and Tellius.)
But the problem is how we are gonna implement it.
and i have three suggestions on how to. 1.-The feat happened in FE7, so, FE6 obviously scale from the older generation. FE7 & FE6.
2.-Since all GBA games have the same animation for Bolting, this might be implemented to FE 6,7 and 8.
3.-We scale by lore and everything that has bolting gets upgraded to Massively Hypersonic.(Geneology, GBA and Tellius.)
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BUMP
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I support option 3 for those, if not option 2.
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Medeus. Why option 3.
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Just scaling by lore, as mentioned. I personally don't think Fire Emblem characters' base tags should be that much different in terms of power or speed. But I can understand why people don't agree, so option 2 also works for me; consdering bolting uses the same animation.
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Yeah, but the pillars in that stage are exclusive to FE7
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If Lina's calculation was accepted by the rest of the calc group, I think that you can apply this.
However, you obviously have to provide standard explanations for the speed statistic within the profiles, by linking to the calculation in question for the character that performed it, and provide an "comparable to..." power-scaling link to the character for the rest.
However, you obviously have to provide standard explanations for the speed statistic within the profiles, by linking to the calculation in question for the character that performed it, and provide an "comparable to..." power-scaling link to the character for the rest.
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Exept there is no connection from the games in option 3 and the rest.
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It would scale to every series that has Bolting. I'll supervise the speed upgrades.
@Miles
However, now that I'm looking over the profiles, I don't think we should cross scale these characters to Roy and the rest of the Elibe crew. Fire Emblem Heroes, like numerous Final Fantasy Mobile Games and Smash Bros. is ultimately another crossover mashup game with no regard for power-levels established throughout the story. It would be unreasonable to upgrade them all for fighting Roy when they do not do so in their home game.
It would scale to every series that has Bolting. I'll supervise the speed upgrades.
@Miles
However, now that I'm looking over the profiles, I don't think we should cross scale these characters to Roy and the rest of the Elibe crew. Fire Emblem Heroes, like numerous Final Fantasy Mobile Games and Smash Bros. is ultimately another crossover mashup game with no regard for power-levels established throughout the story. It would be unreasonable to upgrade them all for fighting Roy when they do not do so in their home game.
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So, you are asking us to remove all heroes pictures and stats because you dont consider these valid, even for separate form.
Go ahead. But dont count on me on this one.
Go ahead. But dont count on me on this one.
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@Miles
Not the pictures, the stats.
Crossover events tend to be very poor for power-scaling. For example, in Superman vs Spiderman, the latter takes punches from the former, despite the latter being portrayed as having much lower feats. In Final Fantasy Dissidia, all of the characters were treated as more or less on par with each other, despite discrepancies in power (i.e. Cloud is Solar System level vs the most common Large Planet level).
Not the pictures, the stats.
Crossover events tend to be very poor for power-scaling. For example, in Superman vs Spiderman, the latter takes punches from the former, despite the latter being portrayed as having much lower feats. In Final Fantasy Dissidia, all of the characters were treated as more or less on par with each other, despite discrepancies in power (i.e. Cloud is Solar System level vs the most common Large Planet level).
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Yeah, go ahead.
i mean, its made by Intelligent Systems and almost all pages already have that form that doesnt bother anyone.
Im fine with you removing them, but dont count on me on helping you with that, it costed us a lot of time to put all of those on the pages.
i mean, its made by Intelligent Systems and almost all pages already have that form that doesnt bother anyone.
Im fine with you removing them, but dont count on me on helping you with that, it costed us a lot of time to put all of those on the pages.
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Like i said, its okay. Just dont count on me this time.
What do you think, Antvasima? Keep or Delete?
What do you think, Antvasima? Keep or Delete?
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So...Aside from the deletion of the Heroes forms, how is the revision of the bolting calc doing?
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Good luck.
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Fine. Im just not too trilled with deleting things i already did, but i will help.
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Didn't he just say that we were removing the Heroes forms?
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Alright then.
Ill wait for his instructions.
Ill wait for his instructions.
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bump
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Also, this is kind of a side note, but JWS and i discussed about Roy's sealing.
and we kind of agreed he has non battle applicable soul manipulation (soul restauration) and regular sealing.
and we kind of agreed he has non battle applicable soul manipulation (soul restauration) and regular sealing.
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@Miles
I don't believe that the Sword of Seals has ever affected the soul before, since its only recorded case of sealing was his choice to seal Idenn, and that could have easily been achieved by sealing her body movements rather than her soul.
I don't believe that the Sword of Seals has ever affected the soul before, since its only recorded case of sealing was his choice to seal Idenn, and that could have easily been achieved by sealing her body movements rather than her soul.
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Thats what i am saying.
regular sealing and non applicable to battle soul manip.
regular sealing and non applicable to battle soul manip.
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